Talk:Autun

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Wording Question[edit]

QUOTING the article: "The area also lies in the area of Burgundy, and in the Middle Ages, it was a Count of Autun who became the first Duke of Burgundy."

To me, this seems a very roundabout wording. How about:

"Autun is in Burgundy, and in the Middle Ages, a Count of Autun became the first Duke of Burgundy."

This may be incorrect. I'm just asking. Wanderer57 (talk) 04:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Ancient History[edit]

I just struck me that the article about Autun is all about the Autun of long ago. Should there not also be information about the modern town/city of Autun?

Wanderer57 (talk) 05:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Factual inaccuracies[edit]

"In the late 9th century, Charles Martel's daughter (name listed as Auda, Alane, or Aldana) married Thierry IV (also called Theoderich or Theoderic), Count of Autun. According to the controversial book Holy Blood Holy Grail (which may merely be repeating local legend), Theoderic was declared a King by the Carolingians, and his son was Saint William of Gellone. (For more details on this topic, see Septimania#References in popular culture.)"

Logical fallacy. Charles Martel died in the year 741 which makes it quite impossible for his daughter to be married in the late ninth century unless she was approximately 125 years old at the time. I think the above is based on the book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" (referring to the otherwise completely unknown 'Theodoric IV') and its historicity is severly contested. The 'repeating local legend' quote says it all. I suggest removing the italicised quote or editing it until it contains verifiable information. Or, better yet, removing any reference to the 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail' material alltogether. Harachte (talk) 17:17, 21 June 2010 (UTC)