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Gboy, why are you marking all the changes to the article as minor? -- Pakaran 05:27, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Probably an honest mistake... and I just started using Avant Browser, it's actually better than Opera (in my humble opinion)... interesting. ugen64 19:24, Jan 25, 2004 (UTC)

Nice violation of the licence here :) http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Avant%20Browser They forgot to tell it was taken from wikipedia, they are so dumb they kept the picture :P Sorry it is written at the bottom in small letters that it is taken from wikipedia.

jul 23:32, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Taken from Avant's Site[edit]

I'm no expert on Wikipedia protocol, which is why I'm doing this editing myself, but shouldn't some note be added when an article's contents are ripped straight from a site? In this case, the entire article was pasted from the Avant site's frontpage... flip 04:49, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

You're right. I removed the entire "Top 10 Reasons to use Avant Browser", which basically just looked like advertisement anyway. I couldn't find the text at the top anywhere on the site, but maybe I was just not looking hard enough. That part in the quotes seems ... quoted, though, but I didn't want to remove anything I wasn't sure of. None of us are experts on Wikipedia protocol, mind, so be bold :) --Spug 01:06, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Yes, the Features part was not NPOV so I deleted it again. -- Sander 14:40, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Hey, Sander :) Brandeks has been readding the text every time I removed it. I left him a notice at his talk page, but he replied on mine, saying that he would not stop reverting my changes "Because they are features of Avant Browser, and therefore should be in the Wikipedia article". I asked him to consult this talk page. Alternatively, he can write his own, NPOV version of the feature list (or one of us could). --Spug 17:37, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I tried to NPOV the list, but Brandeks put the ad blurb back again. I've reverted him and asked for an explanation on his talk page. The 'company line' is not NPOV, and it's better to have no feature listing than blatant advertising. Jordi· 22:46, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

An open apology to Anarion and Spug:

Over the weekend I've thought about the AB edit-war we were having. I'd even talked with someone I knew about it. After all that, I have come to a conclusion: you were right, and I was wrong. Yes, I was willing to keep doing what I had been doing simply because I thought I was right in adding back what had been deleted, simply because I didn't truly get what "advertising" in regards to NPOV meant. I figured it is a free browser, so what did it matter? Now I understand that Wikipedia is supposed to be NPOV completely, and the way things were written before could be construed as favoring AB over say Firefox or IE... and therefore wasn't as NPOV as I thought. So - no hard feelings? --Brand Eks 01:04, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I've unprotected the page. It appears that the dispute has been settled. dbenbenn | talk 05:15, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Link to my own Avant resource site[edit]

I'm adding a link here to a page where I'm maintaining a list of resources for Avant users. The page also has a comment on why I prefer Avant to Firefox personally, so it isn't NPOV - but of course it isn't pretending to be. Am I right in thinking this is okay?

(The link, for reference: http://myhome.iolfree.ie/~lightbulb/Avant/AvantIndex.html) (The link is no longer working)

I will also add NPVO information to the article.

Sergeirichard 23:59, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Only 4 web browsers in real world?[edit]

I'll tell you what. some say there are only 4 web browsers in real world, which are

IE, Firefox, Opera, Konqueror.

they say, this 4 only use their own rendering engine for now,

So, Nescape/Safari/Avant browser/Maxthon/Slim browser or anything are not the

original or real web browser.

What do you think?


I think you forget lynx.

Basically, a browser is anything that lets you access the World Wide Web and lets you view its content. Therefore, everything you mentioned (and Lynx, and a lot of others too) are browsers. --Aeon17x 16:00, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
FireFox (or even Phoenix/FireBird or Mozilla Suite) was hardly the first gecko based browser. How much the engine evolved between Netscape 4.x and Netscape 6.0 is another issue. Then again , one might argue that there is only one browser , NCSA Mosaic. Not counting the gopher clients that added support for HTML rendering. While http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_layout_engines list more than 4 engines (with some duplicates), even it is incomplete, missing browsers used on Atari , Amiga, C64 and many others. 193.229.159.16 16:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Fifth on Google[edit]

Google for "browser"

Ahead of Internet Explorer itself! Does anyone actually use Avant? Artbristol 01:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I have been using AvantBrowser for over two years now. I personally believe it to be better than FireFox and the "stand alone" IE. I always considered AvantBrowser a sort of "power tool" for IE users.
Over six months. It is fast, and it likes to keep all pages in one browser. In other words, pop-up ads appear as tabs. I love this feature, but it always screws me up when I go back to an IE-only computer. I do like it more than IE or firefox. I have several browsers, and Avant is by far the best in my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.157.153 (talk) 22:39, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
Me too, used it for one or two years, never switched. Its like the first reply said, a "power tool" - Headphoneguy (Who was just not bothered to sign in!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.167.178.117 (talk) 21:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I use it too as my third choice, after IE and Firefox. It's good and has some cool features, not to mantion the interface. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.50.133 (talk) 16:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Avant and Advanced[edit]

Is there any connection between Avant Browser and Advanced Browser? I noticed a while ago that they are more or less the same. --JD[don't talk|email] 04:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

"Advanced Browser" is apparently an earlier version of Avant rebranded by the developer for a private client, and so is no longer in development.Sergeirichard

Lack of Notability?[edit]

In keeping with Wikipedia's web content notability guidelines I removed the tags for deletion. I added two extra external links to ensure that notability requirements are met. It does need some cleanup though.

Substantial Revision[edit]

I've taken the liberty of removing the "advertisment" notice as I've made changes which I hope leave this article far more informative and balanced. As a longtime user of the browser and a moderator of its users' forum I can't lay claim to a complete detachment, but I have an informed view and I've done my best to describe cons as well as pros and include common user criticisms. I think this compares well to some other articles on browsers...

I've only updated the introductory and "Development and History" sections; the section on Features is still incomplete and somewhat outdated.

Sergeirichard 06:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The revision is a major improvement. It no longer looks like an advertisment. (I was going to make some tweaks I thought were need but I noticed that you seem to be in the middle of more editing so I will hold off tweaking and commenting until you have finished)
Jojas 11:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Woah, I'm tired now...Sergeirichard 00:26, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I made a few tweaks to the history & development, and v11 sections. I considered making the section on v11 and info on Orca subsections of History and Development but decided against it, at least for now.--Jojas 19:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The new features section is an improvement and looks much tidier. However, the list format does take up a lot of space so I think so compacting would help. I've tried compacting one list (features that can be blocked) but I'm not sure it looks quite right. Something else to consider it that many of the features that made Avant different from IE when it first came out, tabbed browsing, popup et al blocking, url aliases, quick searches, skinning, groups, rss reading etc, are now common or even almost standard in most browsers, even IE has some of them. It might be helpful, possibly in an overview of features, to point out those that are more unusual or unique to Avant.

Jojas 19:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I tend towards vertical lists on web pages, so as to avoid wrapping within a list (or worse, side-scrolling) on small screen devices. What you did there does look tidy though.
Just corrected the part about the USB version. For some reason it can't access the online storage. (I'll be requesting the feature!)

Sergeirichard 19:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


Program History[edit]

I think that giving the history of the program would be an interesting addition to the article. This history would include such things as the fact that it was once called (or possibly "evolved from") IEOpera. JimH443 15:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Update: New version![edit]

Hello there. Just to let you know, Avant Browser 11.5 build 20 came out recently. It has a new icon. These updates are spawning like rabbits.24.255.157.153 22:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


Avant is not a browser[edit]

No matter what Avant calls itself, it is not a browser. It is a front end for Internet Explorer 6, and this page should be rewritten to reflect that. IE is the browser - Avant is the gateway to it. Using Avant does nothing to protect a user from any security risk in IE. If Avant actually was a browser, it would have it's own rendering engine. It doesn't. -- Elaich talk 20:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

What you say is true, but Avant is a browser. It is so much different from Internet Explorer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.50.133 (talk) 16:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Avant is NOT a front end for Internet Explorer 6, or 7, or 8, etc. It's a shell of the Trident Engine, just like IE is a Trident shell itself. Avant is not a gateway to IE, it's a completely different shell from IE, with its own UI and features. It's as much a browser as Flock, Epiphany, Shiira, OmniWeb, Kazehakase, etc. Ufopedia (talk) 15:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Firefox is a frontend for Mozilla. SharkD (talk) 05:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
If Avant is a web browser why does it need IE installed?!?!?! I guess it's not that independent after all!!!! It's just like the first versions of Windows, they were just graphical front ends to DOS, not real operating systems!!!

This article is so weasel worded![edit]

This article, especially the Avant Browser 11 section is filled with weasel words. I recommend editing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Some11no (talkcontribs) 18:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Uh, outdated image[edit]

I am an Avant user, and I'm fairly certain that the image you have is outdated. Should I take a new one? If so, what skin, etc. should I apply? 69.216.125.133 (talk) 06:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Clearing the cache[edit]

I was wondering if anyone knew how to clear the cache in Avant? Even emptying the Temporary Internet Files doesn't seem to work, If you find out, please respond here and add a section here. Thanks! SharkD (talk) 05:36, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

الفانت[edit]

هذا المتصفح ممتاز وجبد جدا لكنة بطىء في بعض الاحيان —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.178.105.68 (talk) 12:32, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

China[edit]

Thanks for the info, couldn't access pt.wp either by localhost (IP range blocked) or by account (cookies required), maybe a WF discrimination? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.74.246.7 (talk) 23:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)