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From the article:

His grandson was the poet Avitus of Vienne.

I received Tuesday from Amazon the Schanzer & Wood translation, Avitus of Vienne: Letters and Selected Prose, & there is no mention of any such claim. The two scholars do provide proof that Avitus was related somehow to the Emperor Avitus' son-in-law, the aristocrat & poet Sidonius Apollinaris, & also mention published speculation that the younger Avitus' mother may have been Sidonius' sister.

In short, is there a source for this assertion? I'll be happy to tag it if no one has a source at hand & wait for an answer. -- llywrch 20:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Name of Avitus[edit]

A website is not a source. The names M. Maecilius and Flavius are not attested. See Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire and Consuls of the later Roman Empire. --Μίκυθος (talk) 07:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Seven websites - and more, if you want -, specially numismatic and fundamented ones, ARE a source, ARE seven or more sources!... G.-M. Cupertino (talk) 15:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Reading books, no websites. Read Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire and Consuls of the later Roman Empire. Give me a historical source for the names M. Maecilius and Flavius. You will not find --Μίκυθος (talk) 06:22, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for the error. Sadly the PLRE is no good as a resource here, giving only a referral to Rossi, I.795 (which I've no current access to). Mikythos, could you amend the footnote as well as just reverting my edit? At present, it gives that "M. Maecilius Flavius" is attested in literature. Note also that the error carries through even academia, viz: Brehier, L. (1930) Un empereur romain à Brioude, Flavius Eparchius Avitus. Almanach de Brioude pp.39-55.
Also, as I've lately been on a drive to standardise emperors' nomenclature. In doing this, I've listed only proper names (as well as Caesar and Augustus), without titles and honorific and victory cognomina ("imperator", "pius", felix", "invictus", "dominus noster", etc). This includes their pre-accession nomenclature as well as their ruling names. See Commodus for the best example. Hence can we lose the "Dominus Noster" from Avitus as well, to make it more in line with the other emperors? Many thanks.Catiline63 (talk) 18:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Dates around fall of Rome[edit]

This article gives the death of Petronius Maximus as 22 May. The article on Petronius Maximus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petronius_Maximus says 31 May. Neither article explains what source provides such specific dating evidence, so I have not ventured to correct them, but they can't both be right. Would be great if someone who does have this information could correct the entry that is wrong and cite the source. 82.71.104.222 (talk) 13:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC) Victoria

I've turned up references to a few dates online, but the cites to 31 May are more authoritative. I've seen a few references to Petronius ruling for 77 days (beginning March 17), which would be consistent with the 31st. The entry from the video series on the emperors produced by historian Adrian Murdoch points to the 31st: http://adrianmurdoch.typepad.com/my_weblog/2012/04/63-petronius-maximus-emperors-of-rome.html ; and Encyclopedia Brittanica Online also cites the 31st: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/370593/Petronius-Maximus . Perhaps not definitive sources, but would seem to put the onus on whoever claims it was the 22nd. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 02:58, 5 January 2013 (UTC)