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sorry,you have mistaken the poet Ayyappan with the 'god' Ayyappan.This is a serious error to be corrected


"The temple is unique in all India, in that there is no distinction of caste or religion in determining who can enter it." - I fail to see how this is a true statement. There are many sects of Hinduism that have similar statements and as such I am going to remove the unique from the sentence.

Some edits[edit]

Cleaned up the article removed duplicate links, added relavency
to GOD AYYAPA & Linked 2 Lord Ayyappa Article Tux the penguin 06:07, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Sad seeing the article[edit]

Its saddening to see the state of this article. No attempt has been made to dig out the real history behind Lor ayyappa and no mentions of buddhism have been made. Even in this world of science and technology all I can see is just the myth which itself has lots of Ridicules in it. I am disappointed. --ചള്ളിയാന്‍ 17:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

no distinction of caste or religion in determining who can enter it?[edit]

There are no restrictions on nationality and religion as far as entry into Sabarimala is concerned. Only ladies in the age group of 10 and 50 are not allowed beyond pampa river — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.49.250 (talk) 03:54, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

tourists and foreigners (and menstruating women) are not allowed (see Sabarimala). the article needs to be corrected. --ti 05:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

You may correct it yourself if you can provide sufficient verification.--AaronCarson (talk) 21:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyright issue[edit]

The website says "This reference article is mainly selected from the English Wikipedia with only minor checks and changes (see www.wikipedia.org for details of authors and sources) and is available under the GNU Free Documentation License. See also our Disclaimer." Wikipedia has not copied the article, the site has copied wikipedia. --Redtigerxyz Talk 05:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Picture of Ayyappan[edit]

I had uploaded a pic of Ayyyappan(AYYAPPAN.jpg), but i couldnt work it out on this page. Help solicited. Arjun024 (talk) 08:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

No Ayyanar and Ayyappan are one and the same. Ayyanaar is also the son of Shiva and Vishnu in his Mohini avatar. In fact, foster father of Ayyappan is Raja Sekhara Pandian and Pandian dynasty had its capital at Madurai, down south of Tamilnadu. Pandalam, the place where Lord Ayyappan was brought up was ruled by Pandian dynasty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.49.250 (talk) 03:58, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Ayyappan / Ayyanaar distinction[edit]

The article says that Ayyappan and Ayyanar are the same and that the Tamils call Ayyappan as Ayyanar. To the best of my knowledge this is incorrect. I'm a Tamil. Ayyappan is identified as the son of Shiva and Vishnu and is a totally different god, whilst Ayyanar is a rural god of protection. Each village has its own version of Ayyanar alias Muneeswarar alias Karuppsamy etc. These gods of protection are manifestations of Shiva. This is apparent from the weapons that these gods have. Most have Trishuls, along with huge swords or long sickles. Moreover, some of these gods are shown with a third eye(iconic of Shiva) and have three horizontal lines of holy hash decorating their foreheads(another symbol of Shiva). Hence I am removing the statement Mr.Falcon (talk) 16:47, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

What a comedy Ayyappan trained in Cheerappanchira family?[edit]

Please stop vandalism —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.254.131.60 (talk) 12:22, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Mount of Lord Ayyappa[edit]

IP Editor 218.186.16.228 asserts are you the tantri? Horse is for Sastha, not for Ayyappa. Ayyappa is an incarnation of Sastha. and reverts my edit.

I am not thanthri. Thazhamon family are the thanthris. Thanthri Kantararu Rajeevaru has specifically clarified that Horse is the mount of Lord Ayyappa, the presiding deity of Sabarimala. It came in the Sabaramala supplement of MAthrubhumi.

The proof is visible to anyone visiting the temple. As per the thanthra rules, the idol on the top of the flagpole is the mount of the deity. The horse is the idol on top of the flagpole. That is paraphrasing Sri Rajeevaru. In the matter of temples, the word of the thanthri is final.

Also, remember the phrases thuraga vaahanam and vaaji vaahanam in harivaraasanam

DileepKS(talk) 02:58, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

I think the idea of the tiger as a mount (as mentioned in the infobox) comes from the story of Ayyappan coming to his mother on the tigress. User:DileepKS69, do you have any online or book sources for this information? Prad2609 (talk) 05:57, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed removal of sections or merging with another article[edit]

I would like to propose the removal of sections: Victory, Prasadam, Pilgrimage, Offerings, The Austerities and The Guru from this article or consider moving them or merging them with the article on Sabarimala. They do not seem to be necessary as part of an article on Ayyappan. Prad2609 (talk) 06:15, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Since it has been two weeks since I posted this note and since I see no opposition, I have deleted the sections mentioned above. Please feel free to revert if there is an opposite view. Prad2609 (talk) 17:13, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Ayyappa as an incarnation of Buddha?[edit]

The statement<Recent research has led researchers to believe that the chant of Swamiye Saranam Ayyappa to be an adaptation of Buddham Sharanam Gachhami and also claim that the idol of Ayyappa has great similarity to Buddhist idols. Hence, they consider him to be an incarnation of the Buddha[1]

The link providing this statement has not provided any hard facts. Only saying recent research. Research by whom? Ayyappa has nothing to do with Buddhism.

Also the statement <Hence, they consider him to be an incarnation of the Buddha[1]> is not mentioned in same article. This is only an opinion and should be removed to prevent confusion, because...Buddha Avatara was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Please provide references to where Buddha himself had incarnations. I don't believe it works that way. Hanumanta (talk) 22:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Ayyappan's wives Poorna and Pushkala Sabarimala — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boboshowme (talkcontribs) 19:20, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Poorna and Pushkala are wives of DharmaShasta and not Ayyappa. Ayyappa is the incarnation of Dharmashastha and is a bachelor.
Anish Viswa 03:06, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Wiki article didn't mention any purana that telling about Ayyappa Story[edit]

No one ever mention sources of Ayyappa story from puarana. Is these stories are purely local? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.168.79.1 (talk) 12:26, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Lord Ayyappa's History(Purana)can be updated from the below link

http://www.ayyappatemple.in/history1.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padmanaban.nitt (talkcontribs) 09:02, 3 December 2012 (UTC)