Talk:B. J. Habibie

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earlier comments[edit]

More info?

I found some more information here, but I don't know whether it's suitable to be included in Wikipedia.

http://www.megastories.com/seasia/indonesi/candidat/habibie.htm

Should this page be moved? I never remember him being called anything except "B.J. Habibie", but that's just the Western media. Everyking 16:08, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
It is correct that prior to his term as president, everybody in Indonesia referred to him as "B.J. Habibie", or even as "Habibie". The newer "Jusuf Habibie" only started use during his presidency. I vote to move it to "B.J. Habibie" or even just "Habibie", since they are by far more recognizable. I'm not sure if "B.J." is an honorary title or not, though. Julius.kusuma 21:24, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*drew, just a quick note that the correct spelling is "Habibie", not "Habiebie", although in West Java that is the name that people say in jest (bie means soft in Sundanese). --Julius.kusuma 18:26, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I understand that the spelling of his name is incorrect, that's why I decide to list it in vfd. By the way, that article is not created by me. --*drew 00:19, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 23:03, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Article name[edit]

If he is "more commonly known as B. J. Habibie", then why isn't that the page name? See WP:NAME. – Scartol • Tok 20:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Copy edits[edit]

I went through the page and the grammar and sentence structure are ok. So i removed the copy edit request.P0PP4B34R732 (talk) 21:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Uhhh... what? This article employs abhorrent grammar, that tag should not have been removed. The fact that his full name was repeated throughout the article over 30 times and the non-neutral wording were grounds to RETAIN the tag. —James (TalkContribs) • 10:00pm 12:00, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, the grammar is pretty bad here. I've been working on it but there is still a lot of work that needs to be done. Maybe I'll come back to it later and do some more. DaffyBridge (talk) 04:02, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


I'm not a Habibie scholar but I ended up on the page by chance and saw the request for copy editing. I've restructured a lot of the syntax to hopefully make the page more readable. There's still more to do in the final sections. Rob. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.111.68 (talk) 05:21, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:18, 11 November 2011 (UTC)



Bacharuddin Jusuf HabibieB. J. Habibie – In accordance with WP:COMMMONNAME, I propose the article be moved to B. J. Habibie, as mainstream media and other reputable sources refer to him as B. J. Habibie more than they do his full name. —James (TalkContribs) • 8:40pm 10:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Note a similar previous discussion at Talk:F. W. de Klerk. —  AjaxSmack  00:39, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Support. Agree with the nom, B. J. Habibie is definitely the most common name. A google news search gives 9,570 results for "B. J. Habibie", compared to 595 for "Bacharuddin Jusuf Habibie". Jenks24 (talk) 02:20, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Support -- His full name is nowhere near common enough to be the title of the article. Here in Indonesia, most say Habibie (but B. J. is sometimes inserted). Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:06, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - seems fine. Let's just do it. --Merbabu (talk) 07:08, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Guten Tag Herr Habibie, heute las ich den großen Artikel über sie im Hamburger Abendblatt. Der Zufall war es, dass ich ihren Fahrer Peter Bertling gut kannte. Er war ein Neffe meiner Tanten Charlotte und Helene Bertling aus Henst.-Ulzburg. Sie hatten mal Peter und seine Frau Bruno nach Indonesien eingeladen. Sie war ganz begeistert von der schönen Reise. Nun wollte ich den Artikel an Bertlings senden und erfuhr, das Peter sein Sohn im letzten Jahr mit 60 Jahren verstorben ist. Peter ist auch schon lange gestorben, Sicher erinnern Sie sich noch an den großen stattlichen Mann. Seine Witwe Brunhilde lebt in Essen. Ich werde den Artikel ihr zukommen lassen. Ich wünsche ihnen weiterhin alles Gute. Sie haben ja viel für ihr Land getan.

Mit frdl. gruß

Franz Tamm 24568 Oersdorf bei Kaltenkirchen

FTamm@gmx.de — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.246.51.48 (talk) 11:52, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Guten Tag Herr Habibie, heute las ich den großen Artikel über sie im Hamburger Abendblatt. Der Zufall war es, dass ich ihren Fahrer Peter Bertling gut kannte. Er war ein Neffe meiner Tanten Charlotte und Helene Bertling aus Henst.-Ulzburg. Sie hatten mal Peter und seine Frau Bruno nach Indonesien eingeladen. Sie war ganz begeistert von der schönen Reise. Nun wollte ich den Artikel an Bertlings senden und erfuhr, das Peter sein Sohn im letzten Jahr mit 60 Jahren verstorben ist. Peter ist auch schon lange gestorben, Sicher erinnern Sie sich noch an den großen stattlichen Mann. Seine Witwe Brunhilde lebt in Essen. Ich werde den Artikel ihr zukommen lassen. Ich wünsche ihnen weiterhin alles Gute. Sie haben ja viel für ihr Land getan.

Mit frdl. gruß

Franz Tamm 24568 Oersdorf bei Kaltenkirchen

FTamm@gmx.de — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.246.51.48 (talk) 11:54, 6 November 2012 (UTC)