Talk:BNC (software)

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Splitted irc/ftp & added jbouncer (19 june 2006)

Some points[edit]

Several pointson this page:

  1. There is no external link to psybnc (probably the most popular bouncer),
  2. the bit about vhosts is wrong. vhost doesnt stand for vanity host but for virtual host.
  3. Another reason for using bncs is to keep your name (particularly on servers where nick registration isnt available).
  4. "The use of a vhost does not conceal the connection any better, but merely adds an amusing statement as the hostname.", often if you get a bnc from a shell provider then it will completely mask your own actual ip using the shells instead.
  5. "Often times state changes are tracked so that they may be relayed to the client upon reconnection", to me this makes no sense at all. I think its saying that on connection to the bnc it will play a log of pms. --Wikipedia-logo.png RND  T  C  16:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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Article naming[edit]

The term Bounce in this case is what a Bouncer does, so why is the wiki page called "Bounce (network)" as opposed to "Bouncer (network)"?

This does not appear to be true any more. --Hm2k (talk) 11:51, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Comparison[edit]

hi,

is there a "comparison of irc bouncers" page?

this is apparently quite wanted as many people have asked me about it

-pp —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheGeekLord (talkcontribs) 12:34, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

Response to 'Some Points' point #5[edit]

Response to 'Some Points' point #5:

Yeah, I think it's saying that when you re-connect to the BNC (simillar to the UNIX/Linux 'screen(1)'), it updates the client to anything which has happened to your connection to IRC while you were "disconnected" or "detached". For instance, if you'd been kicked from a channel, you'd no longer be there, etc.

I think the point about messages the author(s) made was that all the information sent from server to client is stored, not just Private Messages. Also, that some service providers of BNC's don't like to have to cache all that information. It takes a toll on the system after a while, similar to a PC that has too many programs running at once. The performance of the host suffers.Oi2Life (talk) 01:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Only psybnc is notable?[edit]

Why is only psybnc notable? It's latest release is more than three years old! It's downloaded on average 4 times per day: [1] Other bouncers:

  1. miau got on average 9 downloads per day [2]
  2. znc 25 downloads/day [3]
  3. muh got 2 downloads/day [4]
  4. Haven't found any data on sbnc downloads

Google results:

  1. psybnc got 736,000 while 'psybnc bouncer OR bnc' got 119,000
  2. miau 6,490,000 while 'miau bouncer OR bnc' has 15,600
  3. znc 456,000 hits while 'znc bouncer OR bnc' has 688,000
  4. muh 10,500,000 and 'muh bnc OR bouncer' got 178,000 hits
  5. sbnc 71,000 hits and 'sbnc bnc OR bouncer' 12,600

(Feel free to look up the other bouncers which were removed, too. I have chosen these because I didn't know the others.)

I think that not only psybnc should be mentioned here. The only reason for its notability seems to be its age... --79.204.104.79 (talk) 07:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

None of the other bouncers have a wikipedia page. Feel free to write one, but until then, they aren't worth mentioning as they are considered not notable. --Hm2k (talk) 22:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
I think there is a difference between being mentioned once and having a whole article for themselves. They might really not be notable enough for an own article, but I don't see the problem with mentioning that there are alternatives to PsyBNC. --79.204.124.189 (talk) 08:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
The list was inappropriate for wikipedia. psyBNC is placed in the "see also" section because it is a related article. DMOZ maintains a list of BNCs, which is linked from this article. No further action needs to be taken. --Hm2k (talk) 10:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

List of software[edit]

Although BNC software such as psyBNC may not be considered notable enough for it's own article, much of this software is notable enough for a mention in this article. You are encouraged to build the list and provide sources for citation and notability. --Hm2k (talk) 10:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

To make it easier here's how to find the references:

Find sources: "ezbounce" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images
Find sources: "psyBNC" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images
Find sources: "shroudBNC" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images
Find sources: "muh bnc" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images
Find sources: "JBouncer" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images
Find sources: "Bip irc proxy" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images

--Hm2k (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

FTP[edit]

I am considering removing the FTP section as I don't think it can truly be attributed to this article, especially without any references. If you have any objections, I'd be interested to see at least one reference that can aid what is written. Thanks. --Hm2k (talk) 10:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Find sources: "FTP bouncer" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images --Hm2k (talk) 16:09, 13 July 2011 (UTC)