Talk:Baile folklórico

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In Mexico and in the United States where many high schools, universities and non-profit dance companies perform and compete in this varied area of dance, it is called Ballet Folklorico---not baile folklorico. In Spanish the "t" at the end of ballet is pronounced. Many of the dance styles originate from actual "popular or folk" dances, some come from indigenous "danzas" which are ceremonial (and often pre-colombian in origin) in the lingo of Ballet Folklorico, others are "bailes" (stemming from social or true folk dances) and others were created by choreographers, the original and most important of whom was Amalia Hernandez whose company still tours internationally and performs regularly at the Palacio Bellas Artes in Mexico City. But ALL regions and dances in Mexican Ballet Folklorico have been formalized and codified and are therefore no longer true "folk dances", which is why the insistence on word "ballet".

The article is full of inaccuracies. All 23 states and the Federal District have recognized (and varied) styles of ballet folklorico. Many of the states have multiple "regions" of ballet folklorico. Each has its own set of very specific costumes to be used for each style of dance. In some states, such as in the state of Oaxaca, individual dances can have an individual costume.

I am the director of an award-winning high school ballet folklorico in Austin, TX and have been for the last nine years. With only nine years of immersion in the world of ballet folklorico, I do not consider myself a real expert, yet, but I am in contact and a constant student of professional directors in both the United States and Mexico. My full name is Maura Patricia Masters. I direct Austin High's Ballet Folklorico if you want to check my credentials. MauraPM (talk) 03:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I am not sure that there is such a thing as "Mexican folk dance" or "baile folklorico". Obviously, there is a great variety of dances in every region of México, but practicioners mainly see themselves as participating in a regional, not in a overarching national tradition. The lumping-together of these diverse traditions is a typical TV-, tourist-, chilango- or expat-phenomenon (not to mention the hand of the PRI), and I would argue that it did not exist before the advent of the Mexican cine de oro in the 1940s, or maybe even as late as the 1950s. The name in and of itself is strange, because "folk" is a US term with decidedly Irish roots. If anything, most Mexicans would speak of "baile popular", mostly adding the region, as in "baile popular de Jalisco". So what this article is describing is a phantom, very much like "Krautrock" that is only visible from the outside. Therefore I see three possibilities: Address this issue within the article and trace the emergence of this virtual phenomenon (instead of pretending that "baile folklorico" really exists), use this term as a category a write articles for a variety of dances, or to kick it out altogether, because "baile folklorico" doesn't exist. 200.56.66.122 (talk) 02:43, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also list as "Ballet Folklorico"? A number of groups also call themselves as such, for example http://www.stanford.edu/group/folklorico

Move to "Mexican folk dance"[edit]

Shouldn't the English name be used? What's more, the article is specifically about Mexican folk dancing, even though the Spanish term is used elsewhere. --Eipi 21:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's probably a good idea, however the phrase baile folkolico or baile folklorico mexicano should be prominent at the beginning, since that how this type of dancing is referred to within Mexico and the mexican-american community. Within the US, the majority of spanish-speakers understand baile folklorio to mean Mexican folk dance, probably because the majority are of Mexican descent. In particular, in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, baile folklorico is as well known or more well known a form of folkdancing as is international folk dance or morris, contra, Israeli, etc. is in the rest of the country.

So the idea here is to avoid confusion with non-Mexican spanish speakers who would also call their own folk dances baile folklorico. --Jperegrino 01:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling[edit]

On Spanish Wikipedia, it's spelled "Ballet folclórico"... AnonMoos (talk) 00:53, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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