Talk:Ballad of a Thin Man

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Ben Folds[edit]

I wonder if the Ben Folds song "Fred Jones, Part 2" is an allusion to the Dylan song? The Mr. Jones in here could be a reporter, Fred Jones is a retiring reporter who still doesn't have a feeling for the real world all around him, as in the lyrics:

fred gets his paints out and goes to the basement
projecting some slides onto a plain white canvas
and traces it
fills in the spaces
he turns off the slides
and it doesn't look right

Mystery Song[edit]

I heard a song on the radio the other day, which wasn't a cover of BOATM, but featured a line about "checks to tax deductible charity organisations". Anyone know what this may be?

UPDATE: It's a Cold War Kids song.

"and you don't know what's happening do you Mr. Jones"[edit]

Years ago, I discovered a left oriented news weekly called The Masses in a college library. It had a large socialist/communist following and was an early social justice medium published from about 1915-1925. In perhaps a 1918 edition I found a political cartoon depicting a suited, fat industrialist in his office looking out a large window at a scene of environmental devastation of polluting smoke stacks and ugliness. The caption was "And you don't know what is happening do you Mr. Jones." Can not be a coincidence. I'm sure either Dylan saw that cartoon or the phrase goes back even farther and he picked it up there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.47.214.8 (talk) 03:19, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Animal Farm connection?[edit]

Has anyone seen an animal farm connection? the song does seem like its about unexpected change and socialist reform, and the farmer in animal farm was a mr jones. just wondering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.1.51 (talk) 00:44, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

answer songs[edit]

It's worth mentioning that Lennon's "Yer Blues" and Counting Crows' "Mr Jones" both refer to "Ballad of a Thin Man" though not in the same manner. I disagree that the relation between "Mr Jones" and "Ballad of a Thin Man" is an "unconfirmed rumor". You don't invoke Dylan's name explicitly in a song called "Mr Jones" without a wink to "Ballad of a Thin Man". (Is it "unconfirmed" until Adam Duritz comes clean?) I'm pretty sure there's at least one other song that refers to "Ballad of a Thin Man" and if I remember what it is I'll be back. 65.96.90.194 (talk) 05:10, 20 December 2012 (UTC)