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According to Ethnologue this article is wrong in several ways. First this is a macro language consisting of three languages. It is therefore wrong to call the three "dialects". GerardM 19:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not. The line between a language and a dialect is blurry, and when there's a debate, the Ethnologue almost always comes down on the side of considering them languages instead of dialects. In fact, that's what a macrolanguage means, that the Library of Congress, in making ISO 639-2, decided to call it a language, but we think it's several.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Map[edit]

The map which shows the Iranic languages in Middle East is not accurate. It seems somebody used the paint program to change some areas and fill uninhabited desert as a certain language territory while at the same time taking a good chunk of another language territory out as uninhabited desert. Vargavandnick (talk) 21:34, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup needed[edit]

I plan on improving the article. It needs major cleanup. Imperial78

OK, I have cleaned up the article. Now, I will add more information and please add well written additions which are on point to a linguistic article. Imperial78

Encyclopaedia Iranica link[edit]

This link:

Was added by a Columbia University IP along with many other links to the site. I have moved it hear in keeping with our external links guidelines so unconnected editors can evaluate its appropriateness. Many of the website's entries are short and may not contain much more than the articles they have been added to. However, this might be a good source even if editors do not consider it an appropriate external link. -- SiobhanHansa 02:01, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Encyclopedia Iranica is produced by Columbia University and like Encyclopedia Britannica is a scholarly source. It should not be removed from the articles as they are pertinent sources of reference.--Zereshk 13:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


NEW EDIT SUGGESTION: Why is it not mentioned that Balochi is spoken in significant numbers in the Arabian Peninsula? Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, as well as other Gulf states have huge numbers of Baloch. They are known in the Gulf as the Baloosh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.229.148.9 (talk) 09:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Balochi language template[edit]

If you are a native speaker of Balochi then you can help translate this template into your own language:


balاے کارزورۏکء ماتݔن زبان بلۏچی اِنت.

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--Amazonien (talk) 05:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

A text book of the Balochi language : consisting of miscellaneous stories, legends, poems and Balochi-English vocabulary (1922)

https://archive.org/details/textbookofbaloch00damerich

Mukaddas Injíl ki Matí rasúl dastá likhtha : a'nhí tarjuma azh yu'na'ni' zawáná bilochí zawán neánwán bitha (1884)

https://archive.org/details/mukaddasinjlki00lewi

Popular poetry of the Baloches (1907)

https://archive.org/details/popularpoetryba00damegoog

https://archive.org/details/popularpoetryofb01dameuoft

Sitzungsberichte der Königlich Bayerische Akademie der Wissenschaften [microform] (1889)

https://archive.org/details/sitzungsberichte00knig

Rajmaan (talk) 22:02, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Northwestern Iranian?[edit]

How can a language spoken in southeastern Iran be classified as northwestern Iranian? --Vitzque (talk) 20:20, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I would have asked the same :D It's a strange example of a „southeastern northwestern (up-down)“ thing... which proves that even linguists struggle with naming stuff. The only sensible point, which I find, in the classification of Balochian as Northwestern is that it is not Eastern (i.e. Pashto, Avestan, Saka, etc). Probably the reason may be that it is more related to the Caspian and Kurdish tongues than to the Persian ones (which are classified as Southwestern), but this can be confirmed only by a specialist!
PS By the way, the situation is similar with the North-„Eastern“ Ossetian and the "South-Western" Tajik. 82.46.239.160 (talk) 11:05, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The branches are named for where they center. People don't stay put, though, and all branches have outliers. Check the maps on Glottolog for Iranian, Eastern Iranian, & Western Iranian, and you'll see the pattern approximately fits the compass directions. — kwami (talk) 01:10, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 September 2015[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was not moved. --BDD (talk) 17:32, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

– Per WP:COMMONNAME. As per this discussion and this discussion. As pointed out there some articles are already using the "Baluch" spelling rather than "Baloch". As per Google Ngram, in English language the spelling "Baluchi" is more common than "Balochi", while "Baluch" is more common than "Baloch". Khestwol (talk) 21:31, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Support as nom. Khestwol (talk) 22:00, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per my comments here. Actually if we go by Google Books, Scholar, Search etc. results, the opposite is true: "Baloch" is more common rather than "Baluch" which is an outdated spelling. Also, if we go by official conventions, the Pakistani government spells Balochistan with an "o", not a "u". Mar4d (talk) 18:20, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per the evidence provided by Mar4D. RGloucester — ☎ 20:15, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. "Baloch" appears to be the more common spelling and is official in Pakistan, where most Balochs live. Also, if you ignore the results back to 1800, the NGram search shows current usage as a dead heat between "Baloch" and "Baluch". 209.211.131.181 (talk) 05:12, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Mar4d and my comment on a similar requested move here. "Baloch" is an official and modern term, and that's how the Baloch call themselves. Faizan (talk) 07:21, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per reasons given by Mar4d on Talk:Baloch people, even though both "Balochi" and "Baluchi" are widely used, being the official spelling in Pakistan, "Balochi language" seems to be the more logical title. — Abrahamic Faiths (talk) 17:35, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. "Balochi" is the name I see in the lit. — kwami (talk) 20:07, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Local hypothesis[edit]

Is there no hypothesis that Balochi is a local language? That this place was included in the original North-West-Iranian zone, with it being a rather large zone? --95.24.66.215 (talk) 09:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I love you[edit]

Translation 2407:D000:503:13F1:1837:6F51:FE78:F3A7 (talk) 16:48, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Balochi language[edit]

Isn't Balochi language part of the Eastern Iranian languages? Everywhere I've read on this page, it's classified as a Northwestern Iranian language. I believe this classification is incorrect. Explain please. Elite Ali (talk) 18:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source for this classification is at the end of the lede section. Multiple other sources cited in Iranian languages say the same. –Austronesier (talk) 20:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

سالی گوستگ بگندے تو پیر تر بیئے[edit]

سالی گوستگ بگندے تو پیر تر بیئے 2A00:F29:228:9AA7:3186:2806:3D4D:AD07 (talk) 17:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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