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Biogas plant[edit]

Bandeirantes landfill site is equipped with the world's largest landfill gas plant - see http://www.leonardo-energy.org/drupal/node/1287 Gralo 03:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I changed the details regarding the paulistas, the information is incorrect, there are no primary sources that can prove that: Indians, mostly free men, and Mamelucos, people of mixed native and Portuguese blood, predominated in the society of São Paulo in the 16th and early 17th century and outnumbered Europeans. The influential families generally bore some Indian blood and provided most of the leaders of the bandeiras, with a few notable exceptions such as Antônio Raposo Tavares (1598 - 1658), who was European born. For more information on the subject please look at the work of Silva Leme, it is true that some paulistas had some indian blood, but very few. They were never the majority in Sao Paulo. For more information please look at Silva Leme. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulista01 (talkcontribs) 04:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

The following is also clearly incorrect since the Americas barely had any large cities: Leaving from the then poor and tiny village of São Paulo dos Campos de Piratininga, which was so unimportant to the Portuguese Empire that it even used the Língua Geral instead of the Portuguese language, the Bandeiras followed the course of rivers deep into the interior of the continent in groups ranging from 50 to 3,000 men. Sao Paulo was one of the largest cities in the continent, this article has a lot of incorrect information, a more detailed review has to be done. Thank you,

Regarding the French explorer describing the Amazon basin in 1740. The era of bandeirante expedition was long gone by 1740. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulista01 (talkcontribs) 05:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Anti Getulio Vargas poster[edit]

The age of the Bandeirantes was a thing of the past by the time Vasgas was born, never mind have political ambitions!!!!! Please remove. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.246.135.98 (talk) 11:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

native american slaves[edit]

  • the bandeirantes not have money in the past..in the xvii century the native americans slaves was most cheap for the poor of são paulo..the other slaves sub-ameridians not was cheap..only greathers richest mens of northeast region in the xvii century have this sub-tipe of slaves..bandeirantes was majority "mamelucos" in the race/etnicity (native american/amerindian + white/northern portuguese-celtiberian)..
 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.48.63.188 (talk) 07:28, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 

further reading, but no scholarship?[edit]

I find it absolutely astonishing that 8 books are listed for further reading, but not a single one of them cited as scholarship for the article, which contains gross blunders. In particluar, the time period(s) listed, from 1580 - 1750, are wildly in error - the bandeirante period extended from no earlier than ~1630s to no later than first quarter of the 18th century, maybe 90-100 year period, not 170 years.Sbalfour (talk) 18:54, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Drogas do Sertao, El Dorado and Spanish Potosi silver lode[edit]

How can the story of the bandeirantes be told without the legendary Drogas do Sertao, the lost city of El Dorado, and the Spanish motherlode of silver at Potosi that fired the imaginations of a century of colonial fortune seekers and their homeland sovereigns?Sbalfour (talk) 01:27, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Copy editing done, more needed[edit]

The remaining issues are organization, filling out the subject matter, elimination of duplicate text, and wikification. My gut feeling is that this article needs a top-level outline, a breakdown by topic into paragraphs, and of course, comprehensive sourcing, possibly starting with the books in the Further Reading section. I.e. something close to a thought-out rewrite, taking advantage of somewhat usable material already in the article.Sbalfour (talk) 04:41, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

scholarship for dubious statments??[edit]

Where's the scholarship for the claims that bandeiras cleared forests, built roads, planted crops and founded settelents?? How can one possibly do all that stuff while hustling dozens to hundreds of chained slaves on foot, and getting back alive to the sugar mills before everyone starves? If they did do any of those things, I'd not call them bandeirantes/bandeiras, but simply settlers or miners. I'm going to strike the passage, until someone can come up with citations.Sbalfour (talk) 04:54, 22 February 2014 (UTC)