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Batman's Origin Story[edit]

Unlike most superheroes, Batman was born out of tragedy.This was told in many ways.They were just walking home from a Zorro Movie and walk threw a dark alley. Some guy named Joe Chill shot Thomas and Martha Wayne.Bruce ran home.He Swearers to avenge his parents to fight evil.When he grows up, he travels across the world to be trained by an assassin named Ra Sha Ghul.But Ra Sha Ghul wants Bruce to be an executioner.Bruce says no and sets his house on fire.Bruce Only Saves Ra Sha Ghul from the burning building.He comes back to Gotham to work out.He wanted to build a lair out of the cave he fell in as a child.He wanted something to inspire his costume so he could strike fear in the hearts of villains.So he remembered his childhood fear of bats.(That's why he's Batman). His friend Lucius Fox builds him awesome weapons ,armour ,and be vehicles.The Scarecrow was scaring the shit out of people with his mask and fear gas.Eventually The Scarecrow ends up in Arkham.But then Bruce has a party at his house.Ra Sha Ghul and his goons crash the party and set Wayne Manor on fire.(First of all Bruce did it for good.Ghul just wanted him dead). Anyway Alfred helps Bruce up from the floor and sends him to the Batcave. Bruce turns into the Batman,Hunts Ghul down and he dies from a train.(Not Bruce). Then Commissioner Gordon thanks Batman and asks him to capture this so called Red Hood. And so that's how Batman was born. This story is all just in the movie "Batman Begins".

Are you suggesting something to be added to the article? Remember that Wikipedia is not a forum for general discussions of the topic. The Talk Pages are for discussing improvements to the article. ——Digital Jedi Master (talk) 08:53, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Spring Heeled Jack[edit]

Can we add a note to the Creation section which points out the remarkable similarity of the batman character design to this much earlier Spring Heeled Jack artwork (circa 1904) from a series of English 'penny dreadfuls'.

The decription of the earlier wings, before Finger made the cloak change, makes the design even more similar to the eariler spring heeled jack image.

It seems very likely that the batman character design was influenced by these earlier images of spring heeled jack.

See the wikipedia article Spring Heeled Jack

I am not the first to notice this similarity earlier spring heeled jack image looks remarkably like batman (fark.com thread)

References

--Yupviolagobe (talk) 08:49, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Do you have any reliable sources citing this? The Fark thread certainly doesn't count. If there's some third-party sources that significantly point this out, then you can add it. But if it's just speculation, it's against WP:OR. ——Digital Jedi Master (talk) 09:01, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

The Shadow[edit]

It is generally acknowledged that The Shadow had some influence in the origin of Batman. A number of times in the pulp "The Shadow Laughs" (Oct 1, 1931), The Shadow was said to have a "bat-like shadow".(88.22.194.66 (talk) 15:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC))

There is an entire section in The Shadow that talks about the character's influence on Batman. It seems well-sourced, so if you wanted to check them for validity and import them into this article, it seems like that could be a great way to improve the article. However, using references to a "bat-like shadow" as an argument to support that claim may violate Wikipedia's ban on original research. TI. Gracchus (talk) 21:25, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

On commas[edit]

Just noticed the most recent edit in which a user went through and placed all of the commas on the outside of the quotation marks. In order to forestall a revert by a newer editor (such as myself), I thought I would take a moment to point out that this is indeed consistant with Wikipedia's manual of style. As an American, seeing punctuation outside of quotation marks is like fingernails down a chalkboard, but for whatever reason it is apparently the official policy here, and so should be left in place. TI. Gracchus (talk) 20:56, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2014[edit]

he is not a fictional character he is a public icon


commissioner omvig Bruce Wayne Selina kyle Dick Grayson Thomas Wayne Martha Wayne he is a jackass Jason todd

203.100.223.113 (talk) 06:37, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 11:02, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

The Huffington post says The Batman is an outlaw[edit]

What is the community consensus on whether Batman corsses the line from vigilante into outlaw territory? Would this apply to the Dark Knight Batman but not regular Batman, both or neither? CensoredScribe (talk) 18:04, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Depends on the version. In Dark Knight Return he's actively hunted by the police, but in the TV show he and Robin are both fully deputised. I'd say that in most version he's tolerated, but not endorsed or even fully acknowledged by the police. I don't have a source for that, though. It's difficult to include information on a topic which varies so much between depictions. Euchrid (talk) 21:10, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
I've never noticed a license plate or NY state inspection stickers on the Batmobile. Every time he drives (whether speeding, flames shooting out, rockets being launched or not), he's breaking the law. That said, I doubt we have reliable sources discussing this. Thus, we are in the realm of original research. - SummerPhD (talk) 21:23, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Batman is a chemist[edit]

If there aren't enough references to fictional chemicals in the Batman article that's rather sad; really most Dc and Marvel Super Hero's have 4 PhD's on average even if they don't officially have them. Batman has at least 8 under that utility belt. There are easily references to prove Batman is a genius in multiple fields of science based off his impossible and nearly impossible scientific accomplishments which continue to inspire children and scientists after over 70 years. CensoredScribe (talk) 18:13, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Is it a defining characteristic of Batman? - SummerPhD (talk) 21:00, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Are there any versions of Batman without the Batmobile?[edit]

I was wondering if any versions of Batman do not have the Batmobile. Also, does he not drive the Batmobile more than he flies the Batplane? Should category fictional aviators be removed? CensoredScribe (talk) 21:06, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Batman Begins and crediting Batman's creators[edit]

At Batman Begins, the infobox has said the film was based on Batman as created by both Bob Kane and Bill Finger, like this article mentions both of them. However, the film only credits Kane officially, and an editor wants to take out Finger because Finger is not officially credited with Kane. There is a discussion on the film article's talk page about who to identify: Talk:Batman Begins#Batman Based on. Editors who watchlist this article are invited to comment. Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 13:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Batman's fighting style[edit]

Any idea what fighting styles Batman is practising? Clegg Holdfast (talk) 00:16, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Depends on the writer, artist, actor, fight choreographer, animator...it's safe to say that he's been depicted using every style that's ever existed at one time or another. Certainly too many to list in the article. Euchrid (talk) 00:48, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, Batman's fighting style has a strong similarity to Taekwondo and Ninjutsu. Can I add that to the main article or will it be reverted? Clegg Holdfast (talk) 19:11, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Do you have a source? If it's just your opinion then it's original research, and it will almost certainly be reverted. Euchrid (talk) 22:09, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Beside Ninjutsu I also think that Kickboxing may refer to Batman's fighting style. It's a bit strange that his real fighting style is hard to find on Google. Clegg Holdfast (talk) 15:01, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
That's because he's a fictional character who has been depicted many different ways by many different people. Many of the comics wouldn't be based on any particular fighting style - the artist just draws what they think looks good. Even the live action versions fight very differently from one form to another. You're asking a question without an answer. Euchrid (talk) 01:19, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I played Batman Arkham Asylum and Arkham City again and Batman's fighting style could be described with nothing else than Kickboxing. There are also maybe self defences from Ju Jutsu but Kickboxing is his main fighting style. Why is it such a big problem to mention his fighting style in the main article? 188.22.154.170 (talk) 20:15, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
If you have a reliable source, you could maybe include that in the articles for those particular game. It's too minor a point to be included in this article, though, as this one is a broad overview of every version of Batman, 1939 to now. Things like his fighting style in different medium would be considered Fancruft. Euchrid (talk) 21:21, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
OK. I take verything back. Now true is that Batman's fighting style is strongly similar to Ninjutsu. Ninjutsu is one of the oldest martial art and maybe that could be mentioned in the main article that he practised Ninjutsu. 178.191.91.154 (talk) 20:44, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
And here is the source. Maybe you could add that to the main article. Remember Batman Begins when he was holding a Sword when fighting against opponents. 178.191.91.154 (talk) 20:47, 2 September 2014 (UTC)