Talk:Battle of Luzon

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"The Philippines were considered to be of great strategic importance because their capture by Japan would pose a significant threat to the United States"

This is pretty much bs, japan in 1945 has no offensive capability and the idea that the philippines can be used to stage a threat to the US homeland is laughable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.104.242.4 (talk) 00:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

That's in the background section and clearly refers to 1941. Nick-D (talk) 01:04, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

There is an inconsistency between this page and the "Manilla Massacre" section referenced. This section states that General Yamashita ordered the defense of Manilla. The other page says Yamashita ordered a withdrawal and puts the blame for the Battle of Manilla squarely on the shoulders of Admiral Iwabuchi. Unless I missremember my history, I think that the Yamashita trial has more or less been acknowledged as a travesty of justice and that true responsibility for the Manilla Massacre resides with Admiral Iwabuchi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.58.73.254 (talk) 19:53, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Lingayen is a mistake[edit]

In some US military rewies there was a mistake. They mismatched Leyte and Lingayen. Leyte was the aim where McArthur invaded to attack main island Luzon. Lingayen was the place where the Japanese forces invade in 1942. This mistake is probably due to a picture showing McArthur stepping ashore (in Leyte) while a journalist - unaware of geography - wrote "McArthur sets foot on Luzon in Lingayen". It is true that McArthur wishes to make landfall more north as from Leyte to central Luzon and the strategic important places the way is either very far and much more easier to defend for the Japanese. Hence, he was afraid of big losses that did not appear, but not because of strategic aspects but because of Japanese weakness due to own logistic problems. Lingayen instead presents with its gulf and especially the mouth of a big river and the Sual bay a strategic natural safe harbour. Unfortunately it is in the NW of Luzon and therefore days of travel behind the US/Japanese frontier. This makes Lingayen completely unacceptable neither as primary landing place nor as primary target. Any attempt to ship to Lingayen would have had precise observation by the Japanese as a consequence. Therefore no surprise momentum would add any strngth to US attempts. Furthermore, a Japanese counterstrike could not be observed with an adequate time factor, the Japanese supply would just occur from the deep ocean while any shipment to Leyte, the Bicol coast or the south Tagalog region could be noticed by US air forces in time and a strategic answer could be prepared. If McArthur really had thought of Lingayen, it was only an idea for a larger scale involvement as an attack there would require (a) a stabile air base to supply (which could be found in Leyte), (b) a secured harbour as base of all ship movements close enough (which defenitively was not realized), and (c) a strategy how to handle Maynila as it is in betweeen Lingayen and Leyte. Maynila as a final defense base for Japanese retreat with all that population inside would have ended in a catastrophy. The US naval forces at that time (with war in Europe still going on) were surely not able to act at three different places. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.156.118.173 (talk) 07:41, 13 September 2011 (UTC)