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Age[edit]

Is there a particular reason why her date of birth / age were removed?

Perhaps lack of reliable sources. Materialscientist (talk) 20:51, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the word "queer" to describe her character in Power Rangers film[edit]

One or more editors are objecting to the use of "queer" in the article, like [1] and [2], and deciding to substitute "LGBT" in its place. While I myself would favor the latter, being less offensive and more neutral, the identified source backing the info ("Gomez played the Yellow Ranger, Trini, in the 2017 superhero film Power Rangers. Her performance was received positively and made universal headlines, being the first queer Power Ranger.") uses the more objectionable term clearly in the heading of the article, while it also uses LGBT in the body. So what do we go with here? MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:25, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have transcluded a discussion about the same issue on another article. Unless someone can think of a reason otherwise, then I suggest we go with something similar here. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:53, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Transclusion of related discussion[edit]

The source calls Trini queer and not lesbian or gay. Which term should we use? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:08, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is rather confusing as "Queer" has been applied on either terms since they both mean "gay", whether male or female. Does a gay woman referred to as "lesbian" or a "gay woman"? Blue sphere 16:35, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Emir of Wikipedia and Bluesphere: Hi all. I'm here because at least two readers emailed OTRS about this issue. I may be missing something, but Becky G's character, Trini Kwan / Yellow Ranger, does not appear to be described as "queer" in any of the three sources that are cited: [3][4][5]. The Variety source has one paragraph which actually seems to indicate that her sexuality is mentioned only briefly in the film: "Becky G portrays the Yellow Ranger, Trini, a teen who questions her sexuality in a brief and slightly opaque reference in the film." (emphasis mine). I think we should remove the term "queer" or, barring that, find a better source that explicitly calls the character "queer". Mz7 (talk) 22:03, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Mz7: At the time this was the source.^[1] As you can see the term is used in this source, but I would be open to hearing if you have anymore to share on this matter. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:07, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Emir of Wikipedia: Ah, thanks for that link. The readers' objections were more against the term "queer" itself, since, as you know, it was once considered derogatory. The Hollywood Reporter article only seems to refer to the character as "queer" in the article's title. I think the more relevant point that all of the sources are focusing on is the fact that the character questions her sexual orientation during one brief scene in the film, not having "figured it out yet". Perhaps we could rewrite the character description to something along the lines of:

Becky G as Trini Kwan / Yellow Ranger, a Power Ranger who questions her sexual orientation during one scene in the film.^[2]^[3]

I am personally not against using the term "queer", but I think this is a more accurate representation of the sources. Mz7 (talk) 22:20, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I can accept a rewrite along those lines. Please don't remove any of the other sources used there there though as they are used elsewhere in the article. Thanks for your cooperation. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:26, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for your quick responsiveness. Mz7 (talk) 22:48, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "'Power Rangers' Breaks Ground With First Queer Big-Screen Superhero". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 27 March 2017.
^ "'Power Rangers' Helmer on LGBTQ Protagonist: 'We Were Truthful About Representing Teenagers'". Variety. March 23, 2017. Retrieved March 26, 2017.
^ Couch, Aaron (March 20, 2017). "'Power Rangers' Breaks Ground With First Queer Big-Screen Superhero". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved March 27, 2017.

Flip-flopping between American and Mexican-American in the lede[edit]

I've been seeing editors changing her from being American to Mexican-American and back several times in this article [6][7][8][9][10], and I wonder which classification is correct? If we're talking about her nationality based on birth, it would be just American. But the article says she is of Mexican descent (thru at least one parent or grandparent, though it doesn't explicitly say in the article). My thinking is that if she is to be classified Mexican-American, she must have dual citizenship (U.S. and Mexico) and there is no mention of that in the article. I have hesitated to revert the wrong classification because I'm not sure. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:11, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mexican-American is an ethnicity classification and doesn't go in intro per WP:OPENPARA. She is a natural born US citizen and unlikely that she has Mexican citizenship also. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:33, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Geraldo Perez: While this does not directly involve this article, I noticed in the article for her song "Mayores", it starts out like this: "Mayores" is a song by Mexican-American singer Becky G featuring vocals from Puerto Rican Rapper Bad Bunny. Should this ethnicity classification be replaced likewise in the articles about her songs and other work (i.e., replacing "Mexican-American" with "American")? MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OPENPARA is mostly about the nationality of the subject itself, basically the song, so doesn't really apply when talking about other things of importance. In the example I don't see how the nationality adjectives about either principal are really necessary. Just identify them as "singer Becky G" and "rapper Bad Bunny". Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:53, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion[edit]

In the introduction of the article Gomez's nationality (American) should be set apart of her ethnicity (Mexican) due to that the first one refers exclusively to where someone was born and putting both together would be unnecessary, plus her ethnicity is also implicitly mentioned further in the article and if needed her ethnicity could be added further in the article. Sebasdiazorozco (talk) 15:46, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing in the article indicates that her ancestry has anything to do with why she is notable. Covered sufficiently in early life section. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Occupation bloat[edit]

Occupations are things she is notable for not everything she has ever done in her life. One genre listed is pop rap which is a singing genre not a pure rap one so rapper as an occupation is subsumed into singer which is sufficient for the article. She has no notability as a model backed up with nothing in the article mentioning it. Looking at her "songwriting" credits it looks like the normal courtesy ones singers get when they give input to a team of songwriters who actually write songs as a living. So songwriting is subsumed into singer again. Also notable songwriters generally write for other people too as well as write melody and lyrics. I'd expect something in the article if she were notable for that as an occupation. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:19, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Generally speaking, occupations are continuous things. For example, Asher Angel from Andi Mack is an actor as he has been acting on the show since it started. Now, there's also a music video—"Snow Globe"—in which he's the only singer for Disney Channel's holiday month. That doesn't make him a singer as an occupation, though. If he starts doing more music videos, then probably yes. Amaury (talk | contribs) 00:53, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

aight i am NECROPOSTING but heres one thing should those occupations not also be on her infobox BumbleBeast57445 18:18, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May need some further clarification on the songwriting part, as an IP has been changing her occupation from "singer" to "singer-songwriter", which she definitely isn't notable for (I have linked that term - please see that article and the description of what that is). Even "songwriter" is stretching things a lot, because her songwriting credits in the various songs and albums I have looked at are mostly with other writers or writing teams, and as Geraldo Perez has said, these are "courtesy" credits. Far different from Olivia Rodrigo, who has talked at length in various interviews about writing her music, even though collaborating on a lot of her songs from her debut album with her producer Dan Nigro. At present, I haven't seen such an interview from Becky G to further establish any notability with songwriting. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:17, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New projects[edit]

After the release of "Mad Love", updates on her new projects have stopped. There aren't any mentions of her two new films or new singles. This are all important and thus have to be added to the page's Career section. Beastbrat (talk) 18:31, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rebbeca?[edit]

Are we sure about the unusual spelling of her name? The cited reference is blocked in my country. It's late in my country and I must be up early, but there are 11,600 results for ""rebecca gomez" "becky g"" versus 11,400 results for ""rebbeca gomez" "becky g"".--Laun chba ller 22:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, her name is spelled Rebbeca. She has a picture of her on Instagram from about 2015 and it is spelled that way. Most of the time, editors for different magazines misspell her name. Beastbrat (talk) 22:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Details on projects[edit]

I see you have added her other releases to the main page. One thing we should add, though, are the peaks of her songs on charts and how much they have sold. For example, "Mayores" reached number 3 on the Hot Latin Songs Chart and number 1 in Spain (as well as other places), and has over 1 billion views. Similarly, "Sin Pijama" is also doing well. We should add some of the peaks and accomplishments the songs have. Beastbrat (talk) 22:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Single peaks, awards and nominations, and more[edit]

Almost every other artist's page includes peaks of songs, views, certifications, and sales. "Mayores" has had high peaks worldwide and has over 1B views; similarly "Sin Pijama" will almost reach the latter milestone and, again, has been doing well in alot of charts. Both have entered the Hot 100, reached the top 5 on the Hot Latin Songs Chart, and both have been number 1 in Spain and other places. She has also been nominated in several award ceremonies this year such as the Latin AMAs and thus should be included in the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beastbrat (talk • contribs) 22:04, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Updating Picture[edit]

hey, i tried to upload new picture for becky, but i got some problems, and the picture doesn't show up in the main pages even if i already uploaded it. Anyone know what happend? https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Becky_G.jpg Prodioctive (talk) 00:43, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update, it doesn't work only in Mobile. Prodioctive (talk) 05:25, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with Austin Mahone[edit]

Where should i write about their relationship? I tried to add a link, it won't let me. Also, its known that they had relatiobship, i added it, but u remove it for no reason even if it was true. Why? Prodioctive (talk) 06:12, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "'Power Rangers' Breaks Ground With First Queer Big-Screen Superhero". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 27 March 2017.

[2] "'Power Rangers' Helmer on LGBTQ Protagonist: 'We Were Truthful About Representing Teenagers'". Variety. March 23, 2017. Retrieved March 26, 2017.

[3] Couch, Aaron (March 20, 2017). "'Power Rangers' Breaks Ground With First Queer Big-Screen Superhero". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved March 27, 2017.

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