Talk:Bedford Park, Bronx

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Demographics[edit]

The demography I added is for a neighborhood area slightly larger than how it's been defined in the first paragraph. So as to make sure to get the other side of Bedford Park Boulevard, including the Ursuline Academy, I included the area south to 198th Street (how it is defined at HPD [1]). The area from Jerome to Goulden included in the demography section is in a census tract (409) that goes down to Kingsbridge Road, but that won't effect the numbers since the additional area south of 198th is just some Lehman, Walton H.S., and the Kingsbridge Armory. Dtasripin, do you think the definition in the first paragraph should go down to 198th as well?

See the Northwest Bronx Census Map [2]. I've used census tracts 407.01, 407.02, 409, 411, 413, and 415. Satyadasa 23:47, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

This is why I used "roughly" for borders. Obviously because we are talking about New York, it's mostly one big continuous city but there's some edges between neighborhoods. I'd say that from a combination of factors (being a thoroughfare, having a buildings that are mixed use, having a BID), Bedford Park Boulevard serves as a convenient marker because it's a break in the population density, and because people tend to wander only as far as their closest supermarket, Chinese takeout place, or 99 cent store. But, of course, the Census has an entirely different reasoning for why it marks off lots. The fact that they don't necessarily come up congruous doesn't make me lose any sleep, since you did it with good judgement.--Daniel 02:12, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

Fordham-Bedford, once a transition area, and now an extension of the socioeconomic South Bronx is located between Fordham Road and Bedford Park Blvd. So unless you consider Fordham-Bedford a subsection of Bedford Park, the southern boundary should be set at Bedford Park Blvd.

Grammar[edit]

hey, I noticed that the line, 'Posters for concerts and events' by itself and out of context in the second paragraph of the culture section. here is the paragraph as it was:

"Bedford Park's ethnic diversity manifests itself in an assortment of ways besides the formation of enclaves. Among the national symbols one may see strolling the neighborhood include the double-headed eagle (the emblem of Albania), the icon of Our Lady of Guadalupe (sacred to Catholic Mexicans), the shamrock of Ireland, the Arabic calligraphy of the shahadah (the Muslim profession of faith), or the coquí of Puerto Rico. A vast assortment of newspapers are sold in local convenience stores, including The Echo of Ireland, Albanian-language Bota Sot of Kosovo, and the Spanish-language local newspapers El Diario/La Prensa, and El Hoy. Posters for concerts and events

I'm taking off the last sentence looks like someone started it but never finished. I'm taking it off for now, If some wants to add it back on later as it was meant they can. Good thing it was picked up by punctuation bots from Wikipedia:WikiProject Punctuation. Olleicua 00:16, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Bedford Park Social Problems[edit]

I feel the Social Problems section has as much justification to be there as any other section in this article. Bedford Park is a neighborhood on the fringe of the socioeconomic South Bronx. It has become almost a transition area along with Norwood as Fordham-Bedford once was. Although the neighborhood has a lower poverty rate in comparison, it is still significant in the area. Between 20-30% of the population lives in poverty according to the US census in the tracts that make up Bedford Park (Bedford Park Blvd to Mosholu Pkwy). Crime IS a problem in Bedford Park. Although Fordham-Bedford to it's south has a more serious problem with violent crime, Bedford Park does deal with it's own street gangs, robberies, domestic violence, and violent dispute related assaults. Higher then the national and city average and that is backed by statistics provided by the 52nd Precinct. Fordham-Bedford just south of Bedford Park Blvd is notorious for it's drug trade and the social problems in that community do effect Bedford Park. Other social problems can also be added such as high incarceration rates due to aggressive policing, teen pregnancy, high dropout rates, language isolated families, and homelessness. In recent years the fastest growing group in Bedford Park have been those of Dominican descent. Most of which are of a lower income strata then the White non-Hispanic residents they have replaced. White flight has been ongoing in this community. Unfortunately many Dominican youth in this community, most of which born in the USA, have been joining rapidly growing street gangs in the area such as D.D.P. and Trinitario. This is due to the fact many of these households are headed by single mothers and they often cannot provide for their children. As a result many children are raised on the street like many other areas in the Bronx and across the city and join these gangs. Anyone who knows the area will agree with this statement.

Here are some links to back my statements:

-Dropouts http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/fea/20060320/202/1792

-Prison expenditure (Incarceration) http://www.wnyc.org/blog/lehrer/archives/archive/NYC%20Analysis-9%20copy2.gif

-Crime statistics http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs052pct.pdf

I will provide more as I find them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwiki718 (talkcontribs) 04:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Church?[edit]

Is there still a Bedford Park Presbyterian Church? Is it still at 200th Street and Bambridge Ave.? Kingturtle (talk) 13:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)