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Pronunciation[edit]

"(pronounced [bɛˈniɡno aˈkino] in most Philippine languages, /bɛˈnɪɡnoʊ əˈkiːnoʊ/ in English)"

Parang ang stupid ng part na 'to. I have never seen any other article, anywhere else in wikipedia, that distinguishes the pronunciation of a person's name from the vernacular vis-a-vis the international. Not even Ninoy's article has this part. It's pointless; a person's name will always sound different depending on the accent of the person speaking it, and dictating a distinction regarding it is, in my opinion, in questionable taste. It messes up the tone of the article and is generally annoying. It's not as if the nature of his name changes with the pronunciation...you're just emphasizing the o's more for crying out loud. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.211.200.105 (talk) 20:24, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Title[edit]

Instead of "Noynoy Aquino" wouldn't it be more appropriate to label him as "Benigno Aquino III"? The article about his father is titled "Benigno Aquino, Jr." and not "Ninoy Aquino". -- Adherent of the Enlightenment 10.0 (talk) 18:32, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jr.'s article has to be eventually moved to Ninoy Aquino as per WP:COMMONNAME. –Howard the Duck 16:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Also, under Early Life, isn't the usual practice (see countless entries for historical figures from US, etc.) to indicate mother's MAIDEN name? So, change to Corazon Sumulong Cojuangco? Martindo (talk) 00:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I agree with Adherent, BENIGNO SIMEON C. AQUINO III will be official name to be used by him once he is assumed office on July 1. Our countrymen is familiar with Noynoy Aquino and Benigno Simeon C. Aquino III and Ninoy Aquino Jr or Benigno S. Aquino Jr. And for Presidents in our country, the complete birth name is used.

Wikiblitz88 (talk) 02:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Ucucha 04:30, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Benigno Aquino III. → Benigno Aquino III — Noynoy Aquino should be moved again to Benigno Aquino III. "Noynoy Aquino" isn't that common outside of the Philippines. I request a vote on this issue if possible. -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 09:42, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTVOTE. Plus, the last move was done badly, it was at Benigno Aquino III., with the period at the end! What a way to circumvent the inability to move it to Benigno Aquino III.
Compare Google News archive search:
News items aren't restricted to Philippine news bodies. –Howard the Duck 13:12, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone cares, Ninoy Aquino has ~5 times as more news articles than Benigno Aquino. Jr. That article has to be eventually moved to Ninoy Aquino.
I just say the discussion page of the article Benigno Aquino, Jr. and and inspired by that, I suggested such a vote for this discussion page. That was it. About the google-hits: more interesting would be the hits from the main news sites. (New York Times for e. g.) -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 14:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So Philippine news web sites are not "main news sites"? So we are actually basing a common name of a Filipino "celebrity" on a say, Senegalese news website? –Howard the Duck 01:14, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
New York Times hits: Benigno Aquino III 0 vs. Noynoy Aquino 2 (actually, it's only 1, since the second one is a correction.) –Howard the Duck 01:17, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say Philippine news web sites were not "main news sites". Beside the fact, that I just gave an example, I wanted to state that the international press must be also considered. And not only the Philippine press. -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 02:43, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but by how much? Are we going to give more weight on international news websites than Philippine websites? With only 2 NYT stories currently this guy isn't that widely reported overseas. –Howard the Duck 03:59, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Here is another example. During Ninoy Aquino's exile in the U.S., he stayed primarily in a Boston suburb. In a Google News archive search solely for Massachusetts, Benigno Aquino (without the "Jr.") has a 9,470 search results, while Ninoy Aquino has 11,800 search results. –Howard the Duck 05:49, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

About common names: Do you only give weight to the news sites/press? What, if...in future 60% of the Filipinos would call him "Abnoy Aquino"? Will then "Noynoy Aquino" be moved to "Abnoy Aquino"? -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 07:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We'll cross the bridge when we get there. –Howard the Duck 11:34, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Benigno Aquino (without the "Jr.") has a 9,470 search results, while Ninoy Aquino has 11,800 search results" That is a tie. -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 07:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"That is a tie" is the overstatement of the week, I should say. I would've said it was a tie if the gap was less than a thousand. –Howard the Duck 11:34, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And what about Corazon Aquino? -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 07:42, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unlike Benigno which is rarely used for either the Junior or the Third, "Corazon" is frequently used when referring to the former president. –Howard the Duck 11:34, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Are we going to give more weight on international news websites than Philippine websites? " Yes, we should do so since this is the English wikipedia. -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 09:03, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And the Philippines is not an English-speaking country? I'd say there are more Philippine news sources in English than other languages in the internet. I still have to see a non-Philippine Google News search in which "Benigno Aquino III" has a higher search result than "Noynoy Aquino," same case for this person's father. –Howard the Duck 11:34, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest moving it back to "Noynoy Aquino" as it is his common name. It is not customary to call him Benigno Aquino III. First, the name Benigno Aquino was reserved to the very first senator Benigno Aquino, Sr.. Benigno Aquino may also refer to Ninoy Aquino. As a strong ground for moving Benigno Aquino III to Noynoy Aquino, you don't call Bill Clinton's article here as William Jefferson Blythe III. If you say that the name Benigno Aquino III is more common in Google or international sites, think about it: there are three Benigno Aquinos in Philippine history. Have you ever happened to search with "III" or not? I am pretty sure you might find all articles about these three Benigno Aquinos if you only search Benigno Aquino. As I said again, we don't call Bill Clinto's article William Jefferson Blythe III, unless this Wikipedia is truly a bias. I support Howard the Duck's notion. So if you'll say that Noynoy Aquino has 2 NYT news only on international press, and that these international news must be used as resource, then all of the references coming from Philippine press, as you say, is null and void so to speak. Then are you saying that this article may be a candidate for deletion because of that? Think about it. "Noynoy Aquino" was not called Noynoy Aquino because that was the Filipino wanted to call him. He was nicknamed Noynoy since he was born and his parents called him by that name. There are lots of articles out there that has naming issues like this.--JL 09 q?c 10:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The title is Noynoy Aquino...or is there an illusion??? I didn't do anything and won't do anything. Or does Howard the duck (he is not a duck) want to fool me? -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 11:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AGF -- User:Edgar181 moved this talk page back to Talk:Noynoy Aquino (this talk page was previously at Talk:Benigno Aquino III.. I was confused and I'm sorry for the anymore confusion it caused. –Howard the Duck 11:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That was not my mistake. It was omitted to move back the article and talk page together. That sometimes happen in wikipedia. -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 11:58, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd recommend not moving article titles with punctuation marks just to circumvent the inability to move it to the "right name". –Howard the Duck 12:00, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then what do you think about Benigno Aquino, Jr.??? I see a punctuation mark. -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 12:17, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because it is appended by "Jr." which always (at least in American English) has a period? I don't remember the many King Louises of France being named as Louis XIV. of France. –Howard the Duck 12:22, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I still have to see a good reason why this should be moved to "Benigno Aquino III". We basically follow WP:COMMONNAME elsewhere. We have Mar Roxas instead of Manuel Roxas II (and not, my horrors, Manuel Roxas II.)(!)), Manny Villar instead of Manuel Villar, Joseph Estrada instead of Joseph Ejercito, and Mandy Moore instead of Amanda Leigh Moore. –Howard the Duck 12:22, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then let us await the elections. For this time: Withdraw from my request. -- Abfall-Reiniger (talk) 12:57, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Noynoy and the Best Vice President[edit]

Noynoy - Bayani Fernando or Noynoy - Roxas, I think there should be a section about the Vice President of Noynoy. This will make the article more informative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.86.204.133 (talk) 08:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism Part[edit]

The whole part severely needs cleanup, and some other parts of the article as well. It's very messy.

"While Aquino currently enjoys considerable support, those who stand to lose from his victory in the presidential race claim that this can only be attributed to both his parents' successes and not his own." -- Neutrality is of question. "Those who stand to lose" is a bias phrase. This was written in a personal manner.

"However, months after the death of his mother, his popularity remains strong and analysts say that his lead is a sure sign of victory, unless he is cheated or blunders heavily." -- Footnote here, but the article stated 'analyst' (singular), not analysts. The name of the analyst should have also been included.

"But various documents have been released showing that he has accomplished much in his three years in the Senate." -- Footnote here. This should have been linked to a 'supposed to be' article stating the 'various documents' proving his accomplishments, not to his legislative records (because legislative records per se are not synonymous to 'various documents').

"On a similar note, Noynoy's detractors have also pointed out that, at almost 50 years old he has neither a wife nor any children." -- Footnote here. I don't believe that only the detractors are talking about his being unmarried at 50. Even Sen. Noynoy's supporters are talking about this. And the author on that referenced article didn't mention 'detractor' or any equivalent term.

"Aquino had lived with his mother, the former president, until her death, and has said if he becomes president, he would choose to live in his modest ancestral home than in the presidential palace." -- Lack of reference.

Objectivity also lacks on the last paragraph: Another issue is Noynoy's stake in his family's 7,500 hectare estate, Hacienda Luisita. His mother, the former president Corazon Aquino, was also criticized on these grounds, especially in failing to push for land redistribution reforms given their alleged conflict of interest. But the stock distribution option was ratified three times by a referanda by the farmer beneficiaries. In 2004, a clash with government troops and farms led to the massacre of 12 picketing farmers and 2 children and the injury of hundreds of other protesters. Aquino's side of the family, which owns a minuscule percentage, have met to deliberate how to turn over the land to farmers fairly while giving the farmers job security at such a time frame that the farmers will not absorb the land's many debts. This has no reference whatsoever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ara008 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I am not qualified to edit this article but a man who is blamed for tens of thousands of deaths and has been called "the most murderous despot since Pol Pot" surly has a larger "criticism" section than this. Is there no one who can write an objective section for this despised leader? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.13.105.184 (talk) 08:10, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He hasn't won yet![edit]

People, he has the lead, but he hasn't won the election yet!
Ulmanor (talk) 05:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and so I changed it, the results of the 2010 Philippine general elections are still unofficial and subject to change, please do not add unofficial information, thank you... Gregorynovella (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Seconding request to move page to Benigno Aquino III[edit]

After all, this is an encyclopedia. I don't think Britannica or any other encyclopedia would place this article entry as Noynoy Aquino in the same way that it won't place a John F. Kennedy entry as a JFK entry. If Wikipedia requests article contributions to sound as encyclopedic as possible, that rule should also apply to entry titles. If Time magazine, which is a magazine, would prefer to put "Benigno Aquino III" or "Corazon Aquino" on its cover instead of "Noynoy Aquino" etc., shouldn't an encyclopedia be more rigid? As for "Noynoy Aquino" having more searches than "Benigno Aquino III", isn't that what the redirect page is for, so much so that the difference in searches ratings would not really make a difference with the redirect? A "Noynoy Aquino" search in Google would still give you the Benigno Aquino III entry (and the first sentence of the entry which may include the clause "popularly known as Noynoy"), while a "Noynoy Aquino" Wikipedia search will simply lead one to the redirect page. Thus, the popular "NBA" search in Wikipedia would simply redirect one to its formal page, the "National Basketball Association" entry. The issue here is the formality or the seriousness of the entry qua encyclopedia entry. Benigno Aquino III is not, after all, the pop rock star Mandy Moore. Nor is "Noynoy Aquino" the pen name of Thomas Stearns Eliot. Unless, of course, "Noynoy Aquino" is now equal in weight to such a name as, say, "Che Guevara" or, yes, "Bill Clinton". ----Warpotato (talk • contribs) 02:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now that he's president-elect . . .[edit]

Now that he's president-elect, could we perhaps to make this entry look more like, say, the entry on David Cameron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron)? Much more a cause for celebration if we can put up a sub-page like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_David_Cameron. The Liberal Party of the Philippines page (or any other Philippine political party page, for that matter) could also get a lot of home-improvement tips from such pages as this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States), especially with such sections as "Ideology" and "Recent issue stances". With those, who knows maybe Wikipedia can help jumpstart an issue-based partisan politics in the Philippines! For how many more decades must we live through with Miriam Defensor-Santiagos jumping from one ideology to another each year in their lives, simply because encyclopedias too refuse to define political parties by these requisites? ----Warpotato (talk • contribs) 02:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The results of the 2010 Philippine general elections are still unofficial, Noynoy as President-elect is still unofficial, I voted for Noynoy, but still I'm waiting for the official word from COMELEC, so please do not add unofficial information, thank you... Gregorynovella (talk) 09:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
HE IS PRESIDENT ELECT, because he has not been proclaimed as president yet. Don't put Incumbent yet because Gloria Arroyo is still the Incumbent, unfortunately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.147.230.114 (talk) 18:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To say that he is President-elect already is saying that he already won the elections, but that's not true, the results are still unofficial... Gregorynovella (talk) 23:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A president-elect is a political candidate who has been elected president but who has not yet been sworn in, or officially taken office, as it is still occupied by the current outgoing president. Similar terms can be used depending on the type and level of government, including prime ministers-elect, senators-elect, governors-elect, and mayors-elect.Gregorynovella (talk) 00:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still and all, can't we add such sections as "Political positions" or "Recent issue stances" already in support of the man's Wikipedia page and the man? Shouldn't we have done this here a long time ago? Barack Obama's entry had a political-position section even before he was elected senator of the US. --Warpotato (talk) 03:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominate for Noynoy Aquino article to be locked from editing, even from registered users until official election results are final[edit]

I nominate for Noynoy Aquino article to be locked from editing, even from registered users until official election results are final...

I'm sick and tired of editing and re-editing this article, because people insist not to wait for the official election results, and instead, they put that Noynoy is the President-elect and more so, people have put that he is the fifteenth President of the Philippines, I voted for Noynoy, but I'm waiting for the official results of the elections... Gregorynovella (talk) 23:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

President Elect[edit]

When Barackbama's article was published as "President Elect," only the media networks called him as such, even when he was not officially the winner of the US election. One only becomes the winner of the presidential election in the US after the electoral college meets in each each state capitol a few weeks after the election, and a session of the House to count the electors for each state. The title "President Elect" was given to Obama right after a, take note, UNOFFICIAL call made by the media, way before the meeting of the electoral college and recognition of the House and Senate.

In the same way, now that the media and everyone else have projected a win for Aquino, even before the joint session of Congress meets, then we can call Aquino President-elect. Btw, I was one of the few folks who decided to vote for the Gordon-Bayani ticket, and thus, my objectivity on the matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.147.229.103 (talk) 14:49, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you cite examples of the Philippine media, like ABS-CBN or GMA7 calling Noynoy as President-elect? According to Wikipedia, a president-elect is a political candidate who has been elected president but who has not yet been sworn in, or officially taken office, as it is still occupied by the current outgoing president, please note, a political candidate who has been elected president but who has not yet been sworn in, has Noynoy already won the elections, no, we are still waiting for the official word on the results of the elections, and so what if the American media called Obama, President-elect when the results were still unofficial, they are wrong, they just twisted the meaning of President-elect, and so, we must follow the meaning of President-elect... Gregorynovella (talk) 08:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some stations are using "president apparent", a liberal play perhaps on "heir apparent". "Apparent winner" is more correct, but---right---why not just wait for later days unless one has a meaty item to add here, like, say, "Apparent winner Aquino, as if echoing his mother's decision to take her oath before an associate justice instead of Marcos' chief justice . . ." --Warpotato (talk) 06:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--absalon-JL 07:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)Noynoy is now declared officially winner at the final canvass of the congress, which is final and the official according to the constitution and as seen at Inquirer. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20100608-274547/Congress-final-tallies --absalon-JL 07:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xangsane181818 (talk • contribs)

Bias[edit]

There is a lot of bias towards Aquino, suggesting that it was written by an ardent supporter -Democraticsystem (talk) 14:24, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you cite specific parts of the article that show aforementioned bias or anything that violates WP:NPOV? --SilentAria talk 21:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Another significant Aquino contribution is Senate Bill 2035, which is the Preservation of Public Infrastructures bill, seeking to raise standards in the construction of all public infrastructures by penalizing contractors of defective infrastructures." - How can one claim this bill is significant. Every senator in the Philippines files a senate bill. So how did it became significant?
  • "While focusing more on accountability in government appropriations and spending than anything else" - This phrase need a citation.
  • "It is striking, however, how many of these Aquino-proposed bills were not passed." - This is not an encyclopedic statement. I can also claim that the other bills filled by Senator Lito Lapid that were not passed is "striking". By using the word "striking", the writer tends to be bias in favor of Aquino. - Democraticsystem (talk) 02:12, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It seems the items Democraticsystem is alluding to have been amended. But I would aver that a more basic bias towards Aquino in this article is with the use of "Noynoy Aquino" as the article entry title itself. Warpotato in the discussion entry above titled "Seconding request..." offered a very good question: is "Noynoy Aquino" now a common name in the level of "Che Guevara" or "Bill Clinton" or would it still be in the level of "Jack Kennedy"? In short, he asks, would another encyclopedia place its article on Aquino under the heading "Noynoy Aquino" or is this presumption just that, presumptuous? If presumptuous, then definitely biased.--124.217.39.82 (talk) 04:08, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Noynoy smoking...[edit]

Shouldn't the article mention about Noynoy's smoking, since the media, government and certain politicians are making it a big deal?Gregorynovella (talk) 11:35, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If other LGBT people at politics can be expressed to as Gay and Lesbians, how 'bout smoking issue of Noynoy Aquino, This is Wikipedia and Wikipedia is not for bias people who don't want to expose the junk of their Candidate--absalon-JL 07:53, 8 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xangsane181818 (talk • contribs)

Protect Article[edit]

Please protect this article by tomorrow (June 9, 2010) as the proclamation will be done by Joint Session of the Philippine Congress for Benigno Simeon "Noynoy" Aquino III. On-going vandalism is imminent. --Wikiblitz88 04:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As of today, I saw a vandal renaming the name of Noynoy as Benigno Aquino pe**s licker. I ask the admins to protect this article. Wikiblitz88 (talk) 01:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  1. This isn't the proper place to request article protection.
  2. Full protection is unnecessary. Most, if not all, of the vandalism is done by IPs. Semi-protection should do. Therequiembellishere (talk) 03:10, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I second the motion for Full Protection of the article, I just fixed several vandalisms today, they vandalized Noynoy's girlfriend reference, they vandalized Noynoy's official website, they vandalized Noynoy's alma mater, etc... Gregorynovella (talk) 12:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requests for page protection must be made at WP:RFPP. —KuyaBriBriTalk 18:40, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

where can we put Noynoy's plans as president in the article?[edit]

This is from: Aquino promises justice as Philippines president:

In a statement, he pledged there would be a "smooth and orderly" transition to the new administration.

Aquino has said he will form a commission to investigate allegations of corruption and other wrongdoing during Arroyo's administration. Arroyo has denied all accusations.

In a move to show he is in command, Aquino said he plans to dismiss military chief of staff Gen. Delfin Bangit — who is close to Arroyo and had announced he would not step down when the new president takes office — but would likely retain the national police chief, Jesus Verzosa, who had offered his courtesy resignation.

Gregorynovella (talk) 13:25, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stop changing Noynoy's name!!!!![edit]

Noynoy designates himself as Benigno S. Aquino III, not Benigno C. Aquino III, I know that C means Cojuangco, but Noynoy doesn't designate himself as Benigno C. Aquino III, the references are already been cited on the article, so please stop! Gregorynovella (talk) 05:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • More on Noynoy's name:
    • The article is located at Noynoy Aquino Benigno Aquino III, because it was decided that this is the most common name.
    • The full name announced at the proclamation at the Congressional Joint Session on June 9, 2010 was Benigno Simeon Cojuangco Aquino III
    • The full name with initials that Noynoy prefers to use (as seen on his Senate profile, Official Inauguration program, and official website) is Benigno S. Aquino III
      • Other times, he was also called Benigno Simeon C. Aquino III but not Benigno C. Aquino III
  • Google search
    • benigno s aquino iii - 7,210,000 results
    • noynoy aquino - 2,370,000 results —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.122.108 (talk) 00:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bing search
    • benigno s aquino iii - 273,000 results
    • noynoy aquino - 170,000 results

Added by Rizalninoynapoleon (talk · contribs)[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}}

No edit made, as I see no indication that this page is currently semi-protected and even if it was, the user who added the edit request should not have been restricted from editing a semi-protected page. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I meant that we should put this under protection because they will be constant revisions in the future. Rizalninoynapoleon (talk) 14:26, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please review WP:PP. From my knothole there does not appear to be valid justification for protection at this time. Pages are not protected pre-emptively, nor are they protected to prevent people from making good faith, non-vandalism edits just because you or I don't like them. Additionally, there does not appear to be a high level of vandalism at this time. An admin already declined your request to semi-protect this article this morning [1]. If vandalism on this page increases, feel free to bring it back to WP:RFPP. I'm watching this article too, and if I see anything that justifies protection I certainly will request it. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of external link[edit]

I nominate the removal of the website *General discussion community about President Noynoy Aquino as it falls under the category of links to be avoided, specifically under #10, which states that one should avoid "Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace and Facebook), chat or discussion forums/groups". Wikipedia:External_Links#Normally_to_be_avoided. Since the website is a forum website, it should be promptly deleted. I acknowledge that a user has directed me to "Read the statement before item #1" which clearly states that "Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject, one should generally avoid", but the website IS NOT a official page. -L Kensington (talk • contribs)

I've filed an RFPP on this. It seems some people just want to put it in and discuss inclusion later...when it is actually the other way around. --Eaglestorm (talk) 05:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of External Link....[edit]

Recently I added the Official blog of Benigno 'Noynoy' Aquino III, but was reverted by Active Banana, stating that "if its linked from official sites, there is no need to add to this linkfarm", but the blog has no physical link in Aquino's official website, which I do not understand, but it shares the hostname, "noynoy.ph", which is the official website's hostname, so I nominate for the inclusion of the external link, being that it is associated officially with Aquino, please reply ASAP, thank you... Gregorynovella (talk) 04:00, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Read and understand WP:EL. There are now too many external links. The external links section is not a directory. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:34, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zero laws passed[edit]

Previously the article has a section on what Noynoy did (or did not do) in the Senate. That was a nicely-referenced section and was balanced since there was Noynoy's side in it. That should be brought back. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 17:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment[edit]

this is certainly better than a start class article, at least c if not b. Can someone review it?Lihaas (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pronoun and other article issues[edit]

I have noticed the occurrence of too much "Aquino" in the article. For example, has anybody of you see a single paragraph that introduces him, Benigno Aquino III (not Cory or Ninoy) as the main subject and does not mention any character? I guess that's the time when pronoun should be used, "Aquino was the leading candidate in tallied votes for President, and in the official Congressional canvass, Aquino was the leading candidate in canvassed votes for President" so much for repeating the same name again and again especially if we could replace it by "he". Can somebody fix this?

Also, it appears to me that the Presidency section looks like a wiki diary of Aquino's daily activities. For example, the statement

is nothing much of importance.

And important activities such as the issuance of EO 2 is described one-liner. I hope that there are some lines discussing such executive orders clearer and with some media/people reactions in it. If there is none, then the section really appears like a diary of all his activities with less to no importance.

Alarmingly, some contents from the "Presidency of..." article also appears in the Presidency section of this article. What is your say about that?--— JL 09 talk (site)contribs    14:10, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

External links in the body of the article[edit]

I haven't been following the development of this article, but I noticed today that it contains a large number of external links in the body of the article.

Please note point number two at WP:ELPOINTS, in the Wikipedia:External links content guideline. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:49, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That problem has even worsened. 49.145.85.9 (talk) 08:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Graduated "summa cum laude"?[edit]

Please verify this:

He graduated in 1981 with a Bachelor's degree in Economics, Summa Cum Laude.[3][15] He was one of the students of former professor of economics at Ateneo de Manila University, former President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.118.135 (talk) 14:22, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Senate section's bias tag[edit]

The Senate section has been written by someone close, or is a fan, of the person. The paragraphs are unsourced and there are too many praises heaped. Exemples:

Another significant Aquino contribution to the Philippines' corruption problem is Senate Bill 203 (Delete significant)
Aquino filed other reform-oriented, well-thought-out types of bills, (well-thought-out? who said this?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mvching (talk • contribs) 08:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Grace Lee[edit]

Isn't he actually dating Grace Lee as of May 2012? The section "personal life" seems to be, very surprisingly, outdated. 49.145.72.212 (talk) 11:33, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Section "Presidency"[edit]

Instead of enumerating all bills he signed, the section should rather ramify in broader formulations his relevant policies - sometimes a tight rope act, I know. You should make it readable for the international readership. 49.145.72.212 (talk) 13:55, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As of now, you can encompass his policiy in three big topics: anti-corruption-drive, infrastructure projects and poverty reduction. Foreign policy contains the the South China Sea/West Philippine Sea dispute. And since there is an own article on Aquino III's presidency that can be summarized. Avoid redundancy. 49.145.72.212 (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion[edit]

The whole enumerations of executive orders he signed can be put in the lemma Presidency of Benigno Aquino III. But still, for an outside reader rather unusual to list every order he signed. The section (not the whole article) gives rather an unprofessional impression. 49.145.85.9 (talk) 08:14, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this in the lead of this article?[edit]

"Although the official residence of the President is the Malacañang Palace, Aquino actually resides in the Bahay Pangarap (House of Dreams), located within the Palace grounds."

I'm expecting an overview of the most important elements on this topic and I get served up which part of the palace the President is sleeping in? Please do better. 124.148.177.170 (talk) 15:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Nonoy Aquino[edit]

I think that this page should have kept the original title Noynoy Aquino. That is the most common name per WP:Commonname, especially with the election and Team PNoy. With the father having the same name but a different nickname, it is confusing and so people write and speack "Noynoy" except in formal writing and sem-formal writing, such as high-class newspapers. (Same with Ninoy by the way. His article should be Ninoy Aquino. After the airport is NAIA not BAIA.) See other politicians whose articles use their nicknames -- Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 13:41, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Good call!
Does anyone disagree and, if so, for what reasons please? BushelCandle (talk) 05:27, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We have a long section in the article...[edit]

...which is the Presidency section. Will it be appropriate if level 3, or also 4, headings will be added. I notice that the content of that section may be further subdivided or simplified, as there is a main article for it. Japanese Rail Fan (talk) 13:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Aquino's profession[edit]

Doesn't he have any profession or why obliterating that field? 112.198.90.146 (talk) 06:51, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Is there any reliable source to back up he's the Co-chairman of Communist Party of the Philippines? I saw the same with his mother. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.144.173.93 (talk) 14:47, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2016[edit]

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Assessment[edit]

It was wrongly assessed before but had put in 'B' assessment as higher and good page. (F5pillar---/ 'Messager🖋📩) 07:55, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2021[edit]

In the intro change “Aquino officially announced this candidacy in the 2010 presidential election” to “Aquino officially announced *his* candidacy in the 2010 presidential election” Szakyl (talk) 01:17, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Living Concrete (talk) 02:06, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2021[edit]

In the lead, please change "his administration met criticism for a [[Mamasapano clash|botched military operation]] that killed..." to "his administration met criticism for the [[Mamasapano clash]], a botched military operation that killed..."; and also change "his administration filed an [[Philippines v. China|unprecedented arbitration case]]..." to "his administration filed an arbitration case, ''[[Philippines v. China]]''...". Easter eggs are both unnecessary and irritating, and the word "unprecedented" doesn't appear anywhere else in this article or the article on the case. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:A493:399A:93E6:FB3F (talk) 11:37, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 4 July 2021[edit]

Please change the over-long and awkward sentence, "Aquino is also credited for his confrontational foreign policy; his administration filed an arbitration case, Philippines v. China, before the Permanent Court of Arbitration in an attempt to invalidate China's claims in the South China Sea and asserted his own country's claims in the area, where the court ruled in favor of the Philippines", by changing the semicolon after "foreign policy" to a period, changing the comma after "claims in the area" to a semicolon, and removing the "where" immediately following, i.e. "Aquino is also credited for his confrontational foreign policy. His administration filed an arbitration case, Philippines v. China, before the Permanent Court of Arbitration in an attempt to invalidate China's claims in the South China Sea and asserted his own country's claims in the area; the court ruled in favor of the Philippines." 2001:BB6:4713:4858:571:9827:1FAE:E99C (talk) 17:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Run n Fly (talk) 19:28, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Provide reliable sources for what? I don't want to change content, I only want to change punctuation and grammar. How can you provide a source for that? 2001:BB6:4713:4858:6DA5:B2D5:902F:7FA2 (talk) 11:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Run n Fly, read the request a little more carefully. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 06:08, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Bad link[edit]

There is an iteration of “moros” that refers to Muslim people but links to something from greek mythology. 107.115.207.46 (talk) 03:17, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese names of Aquino family missing.[edit]

I recently found Benigno Aquino III's chinese name since he shares Chinese Ancestry with his mother. Please list somewhere in his and his mother's Wikipedia pages their Chinese names. This is the reference for President Benigno Aquino III's name. [1]

His Chinese name is: 許漸華. Pinyin: Xǔ jiàn huá.

Note: Benigno Aquino III does not use his Chinese name in public, as he does not speak Chinese.

This is his mother's reference. 許娜桑 絲·亞謹諾. 菲律濱總統 許娜桑 絲·亞謹諾. 商報 復版紀念刊. 1986.12, (復版紀念刊).

Cory Aquino's Chinese name is: 許娜桑. Pinyin: Xǔ nà sāng.

References

  1. ^ https://www.voacantonese.com/a/gl-tk-japan-us-australia-philippines-cooperation-on-maritime-security/3189572.html. {{cite news}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2022[edit]

Benigno Aquino and his mother have official Chinese names not included in the Wikipedia pages. I feel it would be outstanding if the people of the Philippines found out that their presidents have some unique and cultural backgrounds. Check the Chinese Wikipedia about the Cojuanco family for Benigno and Coryzon's Chinese names.

[1] There's also a whole bunch of sources there. I'm pretty sure you may or may not know how to edit this into the 2 pages. Chinaman2345 (talk) 01:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 04:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A8%B1%E5%AF%B0%E5%93%A5%E5%AE%B6%E6%97%8F
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