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According to PDF page 5 of this article, in order of abuse potential, according to Darke, Ross & Hall, the abuse potential of benzodiazepines is in order of flunitrazepam, diazepam, oxazepam, clonazepam, and then temazepam.
Why then does the article claim that temazepam is a particularly problematic benzodiazepine, to wit: "temazepam rated significantly higher than other benzodiazepines"?
The abuse of temazepam preparations in the UK would appear to be due moreso to their availability (a relatively safe, and commonly prescribed hypnotic drug, with limited abuse potential) and their form of dosage (gel-cap that can be prepared for IV administration), than an actual psychopharmacological property of the drug.
Also, Erowid's temazepam experience pages would imply that there is little euphoria experienced when using temazepam, as opposed to other benzodiazepines such as diazepam or flunitrazepam. In fact, most of the drug experiences reported to that website are expressions of dissappointment.
So, unless someone can direct me otherwise, or adduce evidence that temazepam is intrinsically more euphoric or has a higher abuse potential, I am going to work that claim out of the article, as the source cited does not support that assertion.
- You are indeed correct, I did not add the referenced text so can't answer why it was misrepresented. Thank you for fixing it.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 13:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I know there's a lot of debate on this topic, even within the medical community, but should we be considering the inclusion of the nonbenzodiazepine hypnotics (zolpidem, [es]zopiclone, zaleplon, etc.) under the broader category of benzodiazepine mis-use? There's a mountain of evidence to suggest that zolpidem and zopiclone, especially with cheap generics being marketed, have become the benzodiazepine receptor agonists (technically, GABA(A) modulators) of choice for mis-use, in the same way that barbiturates and benzos were abused previously. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't see why not, they are benzodiazepine receptor agonists, as are benzodiazepines. You could create a new section in the article. If it gets to big it may need a new article of its own.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 22:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
If we want to say that crime or deviance is accompanied by benzos, here is an actual secondary source that doesn't just say they're likely to be homeless and use other drugs. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15228166?ordinalpos=18&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
we could also put some stuff about their use in sexual assault (secondary source!) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10881768?ordinalpos=28&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
If we think these issues are somehow more pertinent to benzos than other drugs, prove it. Otherwise I think we need to have these sections in all the relevant drug articles.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Skrewler (talk • contribs) 02:07, 18 October 2009
- The article should probably note their use as a date rape drug. Above source says 8% of victims tested were positive for benzodiazepines, and goes on to discuss the drugs in more detail, along with its banning in the United States under the Drug-Induced Rape Prevention and Punishment Act. --Odie5533 (talk) 00:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Funny Skrewler you know all about wikipedia's policies on editing medicine related articles but do not know how to sign your name. Trying to appear like a newbie? Not doing a good job. Maybe an idea is not to sockpuppet around wikipedia, I am getting tired of all these sockpuppets. Log onto your usual account.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 20:59, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Oldie, I agree and I shall try and insert the text now. Hopefully within the next few days undue weight can be resolved and in the near future data from other countries added.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 00:07, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
One last thing. Accusing me of a 'sockpuppet' doesn't make my point any less valid. No original research, some *unpublished* study is not a credible source on top of being primary source. Skrewler (talk) 22:29, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Regardless of sockpuppet allegations, edit warring, deleting same content 4 times and being combative is not doing anyone least of all yourself any favours. I did not edit war with you, reverted you once in 24 hours and twice in 48 hours, then stopped, other editors reverted you as well remember. I don't see how you regard the study as unpublished, it was a government report by the Australian Institute of Criminology, peer reviewed in Trends Issues Crime Crim Justice so it is actually more reliable than your average primary source. That being said I am in discussion with user Cosmic latte on regarding undue weight issues.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 00:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone could care less about your personal opinion on whether something is a credible source or not. The reason? There are clear standards for what is deemed an acceptable source on Wikipedia, and it's specifically spelled out in the wiki medicine guide thingy. Your discussion with another user is irrelevant.Skrewler (talk) 01:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Benzodiazapine effects similar to alcohol?
While both affect the gaba complex, the subjective effects are very different.
These drugs (Benzodiazapines (benzos from here on out) and alcohol have a much in common, but their effects on the mind/body are quite different. I'm guessing here, but I have a feeling that this is why combining the two makes deadly overdose so much morel likely.
As an example... many phenethylamines (amphetamine, MDAMA, etc) act on the exact same set of neurotransmitters, but have widely varying subjective affects.
In my personal experience (hope this is ok for the talk page), I do not enjoy being "drunk" but I abuse and and all benzodiazepines (and other drugs that effect gaba such as barbituates or pregablin\gabapentin).
Risk factors for abuse
Under this section the list is missing, perhaps among others, Bromazepam.
Name of article
Seems to me that - in this context - misuse is the misuse of the UK Misuse of Drugs Act - means use as an intoxicant - and is inappropiately judgemental - while use as an intoxicant is not
Laurel Bush (talk) 10:47, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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