Talk:Beorhtwulf of Mercia

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that during the reign of Beorhtwulf of Mercia, London, the chief trading centre of Mercia, was attacked twice, in 842 and again in 851, by Viking armies?

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Reign[edit]

"Beorhtric's reign, saw the first recorded Viking attacks on Mercia,..." Is this a slip for Beorhtwulf? The long disracting aside in the opening sentence might well go into a footnote. Otherwise, what a good job of tuning this up to concert pitch! --Wetman (talk) 07:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)--Wetman (talk) 07:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was indeed a slip. Many thanks, Angus McLellan (Talk) 09:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

London[edit]

According to Image:GreatBritain802.png, Mercia is to the north of London (which looks like it would be at the junctions of Wessex, Kent, and Essex). Of course, that was the year 802, so did Mercia expand by the time the Vikings attacked it? howcheng {chat} 18:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I should have read the Mercia article more carefully. howcheng {chat} 18:55, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The two sons[edit]

Is it known which son is older?

If it is known that Beorhtric is older, then I would suggest changing "Beorhtfrith and Beorhtric" to "Beorhtric and Beorhtfrith". If it is not known which son is older, then I would suggest changing "The story of Beorhtwulf's second son, Beorhtfrith" to "The story of Beorhtwulf's other son, Beorhtfrith" Bluap (talk) 02:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A good point! Thanks, Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:18, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recent revert[edit]

I've just reverted an edit which reorganized the article and deleted two paragraphs in the lead and at least one paragraph elsewhere -- possibly more than one, but the diff is a bit hard to follow. I've no objection in principle to a reorganization, but the deletion, without any justification in the edit summary or on the talk page, seemed necessary to revert. If anyone thinks the re-added material should go, please comment. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:53, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Identify Mercia[edit]

Since Beorhtwulf will be an FA in a few days, couldn't you show some pity for those of us who are not historians and identify Mercia as a nation within Great Britain in the first paragraph. For all we know, "King of the Mercians" might be the leader of a New Orleans marching band.

For example, you could say: Beorhtwulf (also spelled Berhtwulf) (died 852) was King of Mercia, an Anglo-Saxon realm centered in what is now known as the English Midlands, from 839 or 840 until his death. Beorhtwulf's ancestry is unknown...

Just a suggestion. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 00:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Coinage[edit]

Museum Victoria (in Australia) has a Beorhtwulf penny. See http://museumvictoria.com.au/collections/items/58237/coin-penny-berhtwulf-mercia-england-circa-850-ad. It would be great if Wikipedian in Australia could photograph the penny and upload it. Greenshed (talk) 07:59, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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Listed as featured article in jan 2009, Tom B (talk) 19:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 19:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 09:28, 29 April 2016 (UTC)