Talk:Bessie Coleman

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Bessie Coleman is a great woman! She was the first African American pilot! Woo-Hoo!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.155.214.60 (talkcontribs) 20:59, 22 January 2006

she is a great person —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.129.69.249 (talkcontribs) 21:21, 7 February 2006

Someone please clean this up. I don't know enough about her to do it or I would. The article seems to halt midway through sections, and I as a pilot fid it hard to believe a wrench magically siezed her engine after allowing her to climb to 500 feet AGL. Maybe I'll have somefree time to look into it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.12.238 (talkcontribs) 07:18, 7 February 2007

"Her friends and family did not consider the aircraft safe and implored her not to fly it." Such ominous after-the-fact comments, even if true, are gratuitously dramatic. For one thing, stunt flying is inherently dangerous. And for another, assuming the cause of the accident was a wrench carelessly left in the engine (i.e., FOD - foreign object damage), the condition of the aircraft itself was not relevant to the cause of the accident. FOD can cause accidents in even the safest aircraft.

Please list this wonderful woman as Bessie Elizabeth Coleman not Elizabeth Bessie Coleman. I wanted to find information about her and put in Bessie Coleman (her well known name) on the wikipedia and it came back as if nothing was listed about her. When I googled her I was led to the excellent Elizabeth Bessie Coleman article that every person can enjoy. Just a suggestion. Thank you.

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I dont really kno much about her but I do understand it took her a while to get her pilot license and I respect how she never gave up on her dreams no matter how rude or disrespectful anyone was... FROM:Shaina Brown —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.182.171.73 (talk) 00:05, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Odd wording[edit]

"Bessie Coleman became not only the first African-American woman to earn an international aviation license from the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale, but the first African-American woman in the world to earn an aviation pilot's license." I suspect that the phrase after the comma should begin "but the first black woman in the world…" or "but the first woman of African descent in the world…". I suspect that was changed to "African-American woman" in a fit of political correctness that inappropriately narrowed the meaning. - Jmabel | Talk 06:35, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Fokker[edit]

Article also says she visited the Fokker Corporation in Germany in 1922, but wouldn't it have been in the Netherlands? If indeed Germany at that date, it at least deserves clarification, because it would not have been company headquarters. - Jmabel | Talk 06:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


Are you sure? I'm no history buff, but weren't Fokkers made in Germany? Maybe F.C. just had a building there... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.159.147.197 (talk) 00:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Comment[edit]

This is Incorrect information. The Dates Of September and Febuary in airshows are not 1922 they are 1923! By the history books this is totally incorrect! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freerah (talkcontribs) 17:03, 2 March 2009

Online biographies [1] and [2] say 1922. Gimmetrow 17:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Contradiction?[edit]

Hello everyone, I just noticed a possible contradiction within the article: in the beginning, it says that BC was "the first African-American to become an airplane pilot", but then later on it goes on to say that "no black US aviator would train her either", which implies that there were other black pilots in the US before her. Well, which is it? Was she the first black pilot in the world, or wasn't she? 76.21.37.87 (talk) 03:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

If you read the line it reads, "the first licensed airline pilot". The two key words in view are licensed and airline. Chances are there were other licensed African American pilots but perhaps none either trained as or received airline certification.--Morenooso (talk) 06:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)