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Brahmins as Bhangis[edit]

Removed a few comments that were POV.

Don't Insult Hindus[edit]

Hello Bhangis are not lower castes. We are Hindus. Bhangi brahmin 18:04, 21 November 2006 (UTC) hello my dear readers,the word bhangi is not a abuse word, it is a big word in the indian history,if some one want to know about the word bhangi, that means THE PEOPLES/A GROUPS OF MEN WHO DOES NOT WANT TO DO SUCH TYPES OF JOB WHICH THEY FEELS AGAINST THEIR WILL,THEY PROTESTED.In the past time,aryas came in india from out side the country and they started to making YAGYA,they using brunting a large amount of GHEE to parforming the YAGYA. the rulling cast of india began to making it BHANG TO THE YAGYA.they agiting the YAGYA, SO THE ARYAS WERE CALLED THEM BHANGI.(WORD BHANGI CAMES FROM BHANG.BHANG MEANS OPOSING IN THE HINDI).The indian peoples fought and loose their kingdom and captured by aryas.the aryas make them slave and forced to do the dirti jobs,SINCE THAT THEY ARE CALLING BY THE NAME OF THE BHANGI.THIS WORD IS REQUARED TO EXPLORE MORE DEEPLY. WE CAN FIND OUT ALL RIGHT. THANKING. BHAGWAN SAHAY BAIRWA,VADODARA GUJRAT INDIA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.212.136.130 (talk) 07:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Confusion[edit]

The first section is confusing grammatically, I'd edit it, but I don't understand it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letitia Jordan (talkcontribs) 20:05, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Added some more information[edit]

i've added some more information about this articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volt60x (talkcontribs) 23:09, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I've added most reliable information on this article please give me a thank[edit]

2 more reliable information added — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volt60x (talkcontribs) 00:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

caste based slur-Bhangi(verification) and valmiki samaj verification[edit]

bhangi a caste based slur [1]

valmiki samaj a community [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volt60x (talkcontribs) 02:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Samaj=Community[3]

See Sanskritisation and WP:CENSORED. - Sitush (talk) 04:32, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

please delete the page because this page has been moved[edit]

please act — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.190.46.198 (talk) 22:58, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Poor contribution in edit war[edit]

The repeated reinstatement of this material is a fairly gross breach of our policies. Much of it is quite simply unsourced (see WP:V) and that which is sourced is not reliably so. In addition, there are misrepresentations of the sources, circular references and synthesis.

When I removed the content a few days ago I left what I thought were entirely reasonable edit summaries, breaking the issues down into a series of edits rather than just deleting the lot in one hit. Is there something that the reinstator does not understand? - Sitush (talk) 15:59, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Ok I understand thank you :)Rohinisinghaliya (talk) 16:51, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

POV fork[edit]

This article is a POV fork of Chuhra. The history itself (including protection) demonstrates the ongoing Dalit campaign for retitling etc but the fact remains that the common name is indeed Chuhra. While the Chuhra article has itself been a mess, mostly due to synthesis trying to connect it to the Mazhabi Sikh, there is absolutely no need for us to have two articles about what are certainly the same community. - Sitush (talk) 04:30, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

I cant say I understand it entirely, but the sources I am finding suggest a more complex picture than Chuhra and Balmiki simply being the same. There seems to be some very complicated identity politics going on around this term. Definitely there are many sources that use the term without relating it explicitly to Chuhra. Also the relation to the "sect" of the same name seems to be complex, and not necessarily possible to distinguish from the caste community. I am not sure how to proceed.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 03:57, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Yep. I've been reading around in preparation for doing more work on it. There has been a lot of to-ing and fro-ing going on, perhaps because Chuhra can be used generically - sweeper - as well as for a specific caste community. I will keep reading but one certainty is that Wikipedia is seeing an influx of people contributing to dalit-related articles with a POV that is at least as bad as that found among the Rajputs, the Brahmins and the aspirant kshatriya communities. Sooner or later, we have to get a grip. - Sitush (talk) 04:30, 19 May 2015 (UTC)