Talk:Bill Hayden

Photo

Is it possible to find a photo of Bill Hayden as Governor-General ie a photo from the 1980's rather than one from when he entered Parliament in the late 1960s ? Paddington62 3 march 2006

"Alienation from his former party"

Bill attended the last Labor function I was at, in which several speakers made reference to the fact that he had re-joined the party. Perhaps the article is in need of an update? Slac speak up! 01:35, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Can we find a source? Adam 01:40, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Kim Beazley and several other speakers made mention of it several times at the Labor Leaders dinner in Brisbane earlier this year, at which Bill Hayden was in attendance. I was there, I assume Slac was also there. QLD State Secretary Milton Dick was also there, and he acknowledged Bill although I don't recall whether he was one of the speakers who said that he had re-joined the Party. I think the article needs an update! --Anon

Band Member?

I am pretty sure this is not the Bill Hayden from the british metal band jerusalem. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.208.78.62 (talk) 01:30, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

Declined to be Chief Scout

Was it Hayden who declined the normal practice of the G-G becoming the Chief Scout of Australia, on the grounds that the Scout oath was inimical to his atheism? JackofOz 11:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

To answer my own question, yes, it was. This is a cite for the GG normally being made Chief Scout. And this confirms that Hayden said thanks, but no thanks. Disclaimer: I have no association whatsoever with the League of Rights or what they stand for; this was the only cite I could find on Google. -- JackofOz 00:17, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Prime Minister Hayden?

Four former prime ministers - Gough Whitlam, Bob Hawke, Paul Keating and Bill Hayden - were among those paying their respects... time to update the wiki or jump up and down over how the media don't proof their articles these days? :P Timeshift 08:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Sources, etc.

Hi, I believe a some passages in the article need to be sourced, trimmed of weasel words and have their pov cleaned.

I have marked these passages in the text, and, following timeshift's suggestion, I'm adding them here for discussion. I apologize for not starting this discussion here the first time I tagged the problematic sentences. I acted that way because I believe this tagging to be uncontroversial.

They are:

Non-neutral point of view (POV)

1. "By 1982 it was clear that Fraser was manoeuvring to call an early election,"

   "Clear"?

2. "...Hayden, still emotional, said that "a drover's dog..."

   "Emotional" is the authors opinion. A neutral encyclopedia should avoid that language.

3. "In a remarkable 1983 speech..."

   "Remarkable" is quite povvy.

Use of Weasel words

1. "In December Labor failed to win the vital Flinders by-election, reinforcing doubts about Hayden's ability to win an election."

   Whose doubts? I believe this passage is loaded.

Lack of sources

1. "Hawke continued to plot against Hayden^{[citation needed]}."

   This being a biorgaphy of a living person, this passage should actually be removed instead of tagged.

2. "...Hayden's closest supporters told him that he must resign^{[citation needed]},..."

   Is that a first person account? What's the reliable source we attribute this to?

Thanks, --Damiens.rf 13:00, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

attempt at a re-edit

Here is a copy of an edit i made to the main article that was totally reverted. While perhaps some of the assertions are still unsourced, I have endeavoured to remove weasel wording and biased phraseology (as identified by other editors). However, I dont believe the arbirtary blanket reversion (by one user) of all of the editing to the previous (and contentious) version was the best way to proceed in improving the article.

I suggest that from this takkpage, sentences or paragraphs that are consensually agreeable should be reinstated into the main article. Jabberjawjapan (talk) 08:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Politics

He became active in the Labor Party, and in the 1961 election he surprised many, by winning the House of Representatives seat of Oxley, defeating Donald Alastair Cameron, the Minister for Health in the Menzies Liberal government.

In 1969 Hayden was elected to the Opposition front bench. When Labor under Gough Whitlam won the 1972 election, Hayden became Minister for Social Security, and in that capacity introduced Medibank, Australia's first system of universal health insurance. In June 1975 he succeeded Jim Cairns as Treasurer (finance minister), a position he held until the Whitlam Government was dismissed by the Governor-General, Sir John Kerr, on 11 November 1975.

When Labor lost the 1977 election, Whitlam resigned as leader and Hayden was elected to succeed him. His political views had shifted to the centre, and he advocated economic policies which favoured the private sector and supported the American alliance. At the 1980 election he improved Labor's position but narrowly failed to defeat Malcolm Fraser's Liberal government. The popular union leader Bob Hawke, known to harbour Labour leadership ambitions, was elected to Parliament.

By 1982 Fraser was manoeuvering to call an early election, and Hawke began organising his supporters to challenge Hayden's leadership. On 16 July Hayden narrowly defeated Hawke's challenge in a party ballot, but Hawke continued to campaign against Hayden^{[citation needed]}. Then in December Labor failed to win the important Flinders by-election, increasing criticism from his rivals about his ability to win an election.

On 3 February 1983, in a meeting in Brisbane, supporters close to Hayden's advised him to resign, which he did. Hawke was then elected leader unopposed. Later that morning, unaware of the events in Brisbane, Fraser in Canberra called a snap election for 5 March. At a press conference that afternoon Hayden, still shaken by the leadership challenge, said that "a drover's dog could lead the Labor Party to victory at the present time". Labor under Hawke won the 1983 election, and Hayden became Minister for Foreign Affairs, a position he held until 1988.

As Foreign Minister, Hayden advocated closer integration between Australia and its Asian neighbours. In a 1983 speech, he stated: "Australia is changing. We're an anomaly as a European country in this part of the world. There's already a large and growing Asian population in Australia and it is inevitable in my view that Australia will become a Eurasian country... I happen to think that's desirable."

Governor-General

After the 1987 federal election Hawke offered Hayden the post of Governor-General to provide him an exit from parliamentary politics and perhaps some consolation for having denied him the chance to become Prime Minister. The appointment of Hayden as the next Governor-General to succeed Sir Ninian Stephen was publicly announced in mid-1988, and he immediately left parliament and all connections with the Labor Party. He assumed the post in early 1989, and served during the transition from the Hawke government to the Keating government in December 1991.

Early in his term, he was appointed Companion of the Order of Australia to fulfil the Governor-General's role as Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order. He had previously said he would never accept any honours. Early in his term, he was appointed Companion of the Order of Australia to fulfil the Governor-General's role as Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order. He had previously said he would never accept any honours.

Later life

After Hayden left office in 1996, however, there was still unresolved tension with the Labor Party. He had a difficult relationship with Paul Keating, whom he believed engineered the 1983 leadership challenge^{[citation needed]}. By the late 1990s however, Hayden had become a conservative, joining the board of the conservative magazine Quadrant. In the debate preceding the 1999 republic referendum, Hayden rejected the specific proposal and sided with the monarchists, claiming he only supports direct election of a president.

Return to campaigning for Labor

Bill Hayden was interviewed by Chris Uhlmann at Julia Gillard's campaign "launch" in Brisbane today. He said he and his wife have been campaigning for Labor in the seat of Blair. My impression was that he'd kept out of party politics since becoming Governor-General, including after he left the office, which would be normal procedure for ex G-Gs. He also mentioned, in saying how impressed he was by Julia Gillard's speech, that he "had never heard the woman speak before", so he obviously isn't keeping up with recent developments. A very odd little interview. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 03:03, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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