Talk:Bill Masterton

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Only on-ice death[edit]

I have corrected this article to reflect the facts as presented in the Howie Morenz article.
Howie Morenz died from a pulmonary embolism as a direct result of an on-ice injury sustained during an NHL game. Morenz died three weeks later in a hospital
Bill Masterton died from a cerebral hemorage as a direct result of an on-ice injury sustained during an NHL game. This article as I found it does not support the claim that during a game nor on ice. Instead he died two days later in a hospital.
Therefore two players have died as a direct result of injuries sustained during an NHL game.
I have changed both articles and the Wikipedia article, List of ice hockey players who died during their playing career to reflect this.
Nick Beeson (talk) 05:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually, Morenz died from surgical complications from the broken leg. Almost all online sources I can find agree on this, and those surgical complications weren't a direct result of in-game injuries. 24.87.56.142 (talk) 02:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
He got the broken leg during a game, right? No broken leg, no surgery, no surgical complications, no untimely death. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

The article indicates at the start of the third paragraph that Masterton was the first NHL player to ever die of game-sustained injuries. Two sentences later, it says he was the first in 40 years. Which is it? QuinnHK 07:44, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Jiri fischer almost did. Zholtok did die, but that was in latvia if im not mistaken. i think there is one more player that had a heart problem tho im not too sure.--SniperSarge 05:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Howie Morenz died in 1937 of injuries suffered during a game. The article should be changed to reflect that.

FWIW, having just rewritten this article, I have removed the mention of Morenz, as sources universally state Masterton as the only player to die as direct result of an on-ice injury. The specific use of direct is what sets the context. Morenz' broken leg isn't what killed him, so his case was not a direct result of the on-ice injury. Resolute 00:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Doctors "prevented"[edit]

"Doctors were prevented from doing surgery." Don't understand this sentence. Drella Melmoth 04:34, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bill Masterton/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Wizardman 03:57, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Will review shortly. Secret account 05:55, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Tragic figure, will give this one as detailed of a review as I can.

  • Nothing on his early life at all? Bit abrupt starting his biography with "A native of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Masterton played two seasons of junior hockey with the St. Boniface Canadiens in the Manitoba Junior Hockey League (MJHL)."
    • I'm trying to find something to create at least a small early life section, but I think a problem here is that his death is such an overbearing aspect of his biographies (as it should be), that his early life is getting lost somewhat. For instance, in the six-page bio of him in Hockey's Greatest Tragedies, all that is stated of his early life is "William Masterton was born on 13 August 1938 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. A very good hockey player, and a very good student, in 1958 Masterton began attending the University of Denver on a hockey scholarship." In this article, I've really left his non-hockey life intertwined with his hockey, since his playing and working career were so intertwined. Any suggestions on a better way to begin the article? Resolute 02:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
  • He averaged a goal per game and finished with 49 points in 22 games in 1955–56 as the Canadiens won the Turnbull Cup as MJHL champions. "as MJHL champions" is redundant, as the wikilink to the Turnbull Cup (which redirect to the league page anyways) explains the subject. Either remove that wikilink, or remove the last three words.
    • Done.

Will keep on in the morning... Secret account 06:05, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I await further comments! Thanks, Resolute 02:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Still doing this one Secret? Wizardman 15:20, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

If after the weekend there's no response I'll take over the review. Wizardman 14:56, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good, appreciated! I know Secret has been having computer problems, so they may have other priorities when interacting with technology right now. Resolute 15:47, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Here are the issues I found:

  • "about the merits of wearing helmets as few NHL players did so in that time." should be a comma after helmets
  • "Masterton attempted to achieve his dream of playing in the NHL." not really sure if that's necessary as worded
  • " named its most valuable player award after him" should most valuable player be capitalized? Since it's noting general I could be wrong here, but double-check.

A good, if tragic, article. Just make the fixes and I'll pass it. Wizardman 03:57, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks! I added the comma and corrected my awkward wording on the second suggestion. I left "most valuable player" alone, as I am not referring to the award by a proper name. Thanks again, Resolute 04:08, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Looks good, article now passes. Wizardman 15:08, 11 April 2013 (UTC)