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Claims that this article supports the political left[edit]

The intro shows a clear leaning to the politcal left, with how it brings up that "many bioethicists are simply christians in sheeps clothing" point.

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Deleting references to the implicit politics shows a "clear leaning" to the political right. That many conservatives see bioethics as a possible replacement for abortion issue or as a means for expanding the anti-abortion constituency is no secret. Avoiding the all too obvious is hardly the expression of a neutral point of view.

Why is this a lean to the right? You are attributing views to me that I do not have. As for "avoiding the obvious", you may miss the point. We cannot make anti-right (or anti-left) political statements in an encyclopedia. See our [[[NPOV]] policy for more details. I would agree with you that people on the political right are using certain bioethical issues as a hammer to push their policies. So do people on the political left. (The question, who is right to do so?!) But that isn't quite the subject of this specific article; this specific article is about the field of philosophy known as bioethics. I agree with you that a discussion of how bioethics has been used for political purposes can and should be written; however, it would be more appropriate if it is only briefly discussed here, and then linked to another article.

Request for info on Christian bioethics[edit]

Why is there no list of Christian bioethics references?

Sadly, no one has yet volunteered the time to research this issue. It would be a great idea if someone did some research on this topic. Which universities, or seminaries, have specialists in Christian bioethics? Who are the most respected Christian authorities in this field? What are their major works? How do the stands of Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant Christianity compare and contrast on these issues? Any help would be appreciated. RK 03:16, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)

Is the question of religion being begged?[edit]

Viriditas's claim that "religion has been historically opposed to bioethics" in areas ranging over "the treatment of animals, people, and civilizations" can only be made if one assumes at the outset that the discipline, less than four decades old, will arrive, or already has arrived, at a solid consensus on a highly rammified and quite specific set of normative deliverences. If this is so, then I'd think "bio-ethics" would have to be an ideology disguised as a discipline. --Didymus2 06:49, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. I'm fairly certain that "bioethicists" already know what answer they want before they set out to "reason" why that answer is correct, (or, as they may put it, "reason what the correct answer is"). I took a bioethics class taught by an individual who wrote bioethical policy for the Clinton administration, and he admitted that he wrote it "the weekend before the deadline". Doctors regularly go to this guy with serious life or death questions about their patients, and he gets to determine their fates, based on an arbitrary opinion backed up with "rational arguments". It seems to me that the whole field of bioethics is unethical. :) --brian0918 20:25, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
See the note about transhumanist reaction to it - because it usually is an ideology disguised as a discipline, in practice.--Anonymous 22:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Transhumanist biologists see their work as inherently ethical ? o.O[edit]

"Transhumanist biologists in particular can be prone to this misunderstanding, as they see their work as inherently ethical, and attacks on it as unethical."

Is there a reference to back this up ? I'm quite skeptic about the "transhumanist biologists see their work as inherently ethical" part. Flammifer 9 July 2005 13:02 (UTC)

Are you crazy? Transhumanism is a type of humanism! A secular movement in ethics!