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Not true at all[edit]

"While trouser stripes were in use in various militaries for many years[1] (especially the British Army, from whose uniforms influenced American uniforms for many years), red trouser stripes were not a predominant feature of any Marine uniform until 1837" That's not true at all. The Spanish Marines, wich btw is the oldest Marine Corps, has had a red stripe since 1762, after their heroic defence of Havana, wich made made the King grant them a Royal Household, which in Spain it means wearing a red strip in the trousers. So I proceed to modify the article acordingly. --84.126.10.233 (talk) 13:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The word "Marine" in that sentence referred to "American Marine" rather than "any marine worldwide". I've made that more clear, though the intro to the entire article makes obvious that the focus of the article is on the United States Marine Corps. However, thanks for your reference, though I wish we had an English source that denoted that. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 16:14, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article is wrong[edit]

According to the study by the USMC "MARINES IN THE MEXICAN WAR 1991"[1] the only Marines in Scott's Army in the Mexico City campaign was Watson's Marine Battalion. It's strength upon landing at Vera Cruz in Jun 1847 was 314 men. The battalion was reinforced by marines from the Navy Gulf Squadron which had a strength of 315 men in Jun 1847. It is likely that up to 100 gulf sqd marines were added to the battalion, bringing it's strength up to around 400 men. In the Battle of Chapultepec, the bulk of the Marine battalion did not see action as after an initial advance, the Gen Quitman ordered the Marines to halt. Watson was determined to wait there until receiving further orders. Only 7 marines were killed and 5 of them were Privates, so there is no way that 780 Marines were killed.

Additionally the USMC says that the blood stripe story from the Mexican war is a Myth. [2]

Separately the Mexican army did not have trained snipers. They were using surplus British muskets (e.g. Brown Bess) from the Napoleonic Wars period and possibly had some Baker Rifles from the Napoleonic era as well. This is documented in the Wikipedia article on the Mexican-American War and other sources. As a result it is unlikely they were able to target officers and NCO's.

Marine for Truth — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.220.157.243 (talk) 08:40, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Marines in the Mexican War". 1991.
  2. ^ http://www.quanticosentryonline.com/news/article_c29f9c87-1b4a-52ee-8ccc-abc2d6e63b6d.html

The blood stripe was adapted because we The MARINES lost a majority of our NCO’s in that battle. IT’S HISTORY NOT A DAMN MYTH!!![edit]

ITS HISTORY NOT A MYTH! Maybe the ARMY HAD IT BUT THE MARINES ADAPTED IT BECAUSE OF THAT BATTLE!! 24.115.7.5 (talk) 00:09, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]