Talk:Bob Hewitt

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Australian or South African?[edit]

In the article is written «After marrying a South African, he became a South African citizen». When did it happen?--Unikalinho (talk) 02:54, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Late '66 early '67 the tournaments started saying he was South African rather than Australian. I have noted as such in the article. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:26, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Old South African Flag[edit]

Why is the old South African Flag used on this page? I don't see any good reason for it being used. I would have changed it if I could, but I don't know how. Can someone change it please? 196.42.111.148 (talk) 14:39 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I also noticed that, and fixed it. Autumnox (talk) 06:57, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The flags used are to show his sporting nationality at the time he played tennis (why he is notable in the first place). It's not his citizenship or passport flag. That is the official flag used from 1928–1994 and he played from the late 60's to the early 80's. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If the old flag was used to define his nationality at the time of the sporting event then I can understand it being used under "Open-era doubles finals". But why is it being used under his profile on the right hand side? It says "country South Africa" which is defining his CURRENT nationality as well. Hence, the new flag AT LEAST should be used here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.126.208.20 (talk) 09:27, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the flag under his profile should be the current ZA flag. As for the rest, if one really believes using the proper ZA flag in the tables is inaccurate, then the flags (which are not important to the article) should just be removed, or replaced with ISO 3166-1 Alpha-2 country codes. Autumnox (talk) 07:49, 3 July 2015 (UTC) I've fixed the flag on his profile box, since there is no possible reason to use the old ZA flag here. For the rest, some agreement much be reached. Autumnox (talk) 08:06, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And I've put it back to its proper state. That flag in the infobox is ONLY for his sports playing nationality.... nothing else. His birthplace and residence can be listed, but not with a flag per wikipedia MoS. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:15, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What is wrong with you? Look here: 

Full name 	Robert Anthony John Hewitt
Country 	 Australia
South Africa South Africa (pre-1994)

This above, which you are defending, is nonsense. It is his bio, has nothing to do with his sports. Stop being irrational, or stop pushing political ideology - I'm not sure which you are doing, but whichever it is, it does not make sense. I am going to change his country back to South Africa, since he did not cease to be South Africa after 1994. Autumnox (talk) 15:00, 3 July 2015 (UTC) I have opened up a dispute resolution for this issue, Fyunck(click), because I don't want this to be a reversion war. Autumnox (talk) 15:25, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Goodness, that's a quick dispute but whatever. You have to remember that it has everything to do with sports. The only reason this guy is here is because he played tennis. If it is decided that for this one player that his international country is not the old flag he played under then he is not allowed a flag per MoS... only the words. he is allowed the Australian flag. Fyunck(click) (talk) 15:31, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, if that is in fact the case, then the bio should state that, don't you agree? Stating his name, and then presenting a flag, would usually signify nationality - if it is not suppose to, then it should specify what exactly the flag represents. Do you disagree with that? Autumnox (talk) 15:39, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The flag does represent nationality... but it's playing nationality. Actually country. I do agree it could be worded as such for more clarity. I suspect it was simply shortened to country in all tennis players to better fit in the infobox and not overlap lines. As to what's usual, that depends. If there is a flag in any infobox bio on wikipedia it is for sports nationality. Normal bios never have flags in the infobox... they just have a name. If you mean outside of wikipedia, then you are probably correct. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:21, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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