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Problem with English translation[edit]

It seems that the English translation differs somewhat from the Chinese one. The English translation misses the essence of the Chinese version, where despite endless passions, one vows to remove them all. The English translation here, different than what I usually see, puts the vow at the beginning of the sentence, de-emphasizing the challenge somehow. Maybe it's just me, but I'd like to see us move to a more traditional translation somehow. It's longer, so perhaps the author was hoping to save space.  :)

--Ph0kin (talk) 15:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Some more links[edit]

Maybe they can be helpful to the article. THE BODHISATTVA VOWS taken from two weekends’ teachings given by Geshe Tashi in February and March 2001 at Jamyang Buddhist Centre, London, BODHISATTVA VOWS, The Bodhisattva Vow, Bodhisattva Vows by Taitaku Pat Phelan,

Austerlitz -- 88.75.212.107 (talk) 13:03, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The Bodhisattva Vow.

Austerlitz -- 88.75.212.107 (talk) 13:12, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Presentation of the eighteen vows on khandro.net:

Vows that Follow from the Bodhisattva Vow:

We pledge to AVOID:

1. Praising yourself and belittling others because of your attachment to receiving offerings, being respected and venerated as a teacher, and gaining profit in general.

2. Not giving material aid or teaching the Dharma to those who are pained with suffering and without a protector because of your being under the influence of miserliness and wanting to amass knowledge for yourself alone.

3. Not listening to someone who has previously offended you but who declares his offense and begs forgiveness, and holding a grudge against him.

4. Condemning the teachings of the Buddha and teaching distorted views.

5. Taking offerings to the Three Jewels of Refuge for yourself by such means as stealth, robbery or devious schemes.

6. Despising the Tripitaka and saying these texts are not the teaching of the Buddha.

7. Evicting monks from a monastery or casting them out of the Sangha even if they have broken their vows, because of not forgiving them.

8. Committing any of the five heinous crimes of killing your mother, your father, an Arhat, drawing blood intentionally from a Buddha or causing a division in the Sangha by supporting and spreading sectarian views.

9. Holding views contrary to the teachings of the Buddha such as sectarianism, disbelief in the Three Jewels of Refuge, the law of cause and effect, and so forth.

10. Completely destroying any place by means of fire, bombs, pollution and black magic.

11. Teaching Sunyata to those who are not ready to understand it.

12. Turning people away from working for the full enlightenment of Buddhahood and encouraging them to work merely for their own liberation from suffering.

13. Encouraging people to abandon their vowed rules of moral conduct.

14. Causing others to hold the distorted views you might hold about the Hinayana teachings, as well as belittling the Hinayana teachings and saying that their practice does not lead to Nirvana.

15. Practising, supporting or teaching the Dharma for financial profit and fame while saying your motives are pure and that others are pursuing Dharma for such base aims.

16. Telling others, even though you may have very little or no understanding of Sunyata, that if they obtain as profound an understanding as you have, that then they will become as great and as highly realized as you are.

17. Taking gifts from others and encouraging others to give you things originally intended as offerings to the Three Jewels of Refuge.

18. Taking anything away from those monks who are practicing meditation and giving it to those who are merely reciting texts.

    ~ from The Complete Six-Session Guru-Yoga Primer,
     courtesy K. McD.

Are they identical?

Austerlitz -- 88.75.212.107 (talk) 13:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)