Talk:Bowdoin College

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there is something that doesn't look right in the part entitled "Bowdoin in literature and film" : "M*A*S*H (1968, 1970) — In both the book and film, the character Hawkeye Pierce, played by actor Alan Alda" --> Alan Alda played that part in the TV series, but it's not him who played it in the film (it's Donald Sutherland)... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

Then go ahead and fix it. That was a recent change because it used to say Sutherland. --Rtrev 14:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


The info box for college rankings are now a part of the University portal. If you are going to remove it, you need to offer an explanation here prior removing it again.--Mitamarine 19:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, here is the info on the infobox and editing it FYI... US University Ranking template --Rtrev 04:33, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Why the sun is in the seal--it's probably NOT for the speculative reason given in the text.[edit]

This is just an art-historian's guess, but the schools' motto appears to refer to the ancient (i.e., classical) bestiaries, which included fantastic descriptions of known animals as well as speculative descriptions of fantastic beasts and birds. In these catalogues of real creatures and chimerical beasts, the eagle was said to be the only bird able to fly into the sun without losing its sight. (See Emile Male's study of Gothic Art for one discussion of this.)

Such ideas, known to and used by a variety of scholars until the Enlightenment, gave very early Christian writers the medieval character for John's gospel, symbolized by the eagle, from the Revelations passage referring to the four animals (interpreted to mean the 4 gospelers) around God's throne. John's book, unlike the other three (Synoptic, more interrelated) gospels, attends to the character of Jesus (in the "I Am's,"--"I am the Bread of Life," "...the Paschal Lamb," etc., and in the attention given to conveying actions that merit the title 'the Christ'--the annointed one, in Greek). John is thus said, like the eagle, to have been able to see the dazzling light of God's Son's countenance without being blinded by it. (See the St. John page in the Book of Kells as an example of this symbolism).

Using the sun as an image to accompany the Latin words in the motto would make sense, whether the classical or the more specifically Catholic context were intended, and either is possible. By the 1820s there were stirrings of interest in medieval Catholic learning previously rejected by those engaged in North American educational and other institutional foundations, thentofore primarily protestant in nature. (These were even stronger later; the article doesn't mention when the seal and motto were actually adopted). It is also consistent with the idea of an academic community being expected to face truth forthrightly, without flinching, flying straight towards the light if need be.

It would be interesting to see what might appear were the school's archives to be searched on this topic. There may be a note somewhere in them, in a diary or elsewhere. Ihsdlrue 14:03, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Bowdoin graduate and the reason that the sun is the seal as we were told is that, as the article mentions, it was the easternmost school in the US when it was founded so it was the first college in the country that saw the sun. I'll add this to the article if I can find a source to confirm that. TommyALong (talk) 06:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Chris' front yard?[edit]

Check the first section of the article. This has to be someone screwing around. (talk) 03:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation of the name "Bowdoin" ?[edit]

How is the name Bowdoin pronounced? I think that info would be appropriate for the intro. best, (talk) 22:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

There is information on the pronunciation on the official Bowdoin website, including a link to an audio file, here: Ripeugenedebs (talk) 18:07, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


Bowdoin College developed a new logo to represent the college. It is on the College website. As I am not an administrator, I cannot upload the photo since it has a non-free license.

Jgmbowdoin (talk) 02:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)jgmbowdoin

Acceptance Rates[edit]

The first sentence under the heading "Student Body" treats the acceptance rates of Bowdoin, Middlebury, and Williams as a basis for comparing the selectivity of the three schools. But this comparison only makes sense if the sets of applicants of the three schools are identical in quality. I see no reason to assume that they are.

Mis-labled Photo--Class of 1875 Gateway[edit]

It looks like the Class of 1875 Gateway is properly identified, but it is incorrectly located. The gateway stands outside of the archway in the current Visual and Performing Arts Building on the Quad. It's not in front of Whittier Field as the caption claims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Where should the National Association of Scholars report on Bowdoin be included?[edit]

The NAS released a fairly large study on Bowdoin [1] Where should it be included on the Bowdoin page? --Smithderek2000 (talk) 06:01, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure that it should be included except as a brief note placed in a wider historical context. Right now it looks like the report is being widely dismissed as hopelessly partisan and completely lacking in rigor so it doesn't seem likely that it will have any lasting impact. ElKevbo (talk) 14:20, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of content[edit]

This is one of the rare times when I see the point to an IP deleting sourced content without having offered an explanation in the edit summary [2], so I'll take a crack at it. The first source is to another Wikipedia article, the next is to a PDF of a well-researched paper by a student, with no clear indication that it was published. The last two sources are editorials, one from a professor and the other from a recent student, both published in the college's newspaper. In sum the sources are shaky (Wiki article, long essay of uncertain significance, two published editorials), and their omission doesn't substantially damage or skew the content. In fact, I wonder if their addition doesn't constitute some WP:UNDUE; this might merit its two current paragraphs if the subject has received coverage from more news sources outside the college. JNW (talk) 18:38, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

I think the NAS report and reaction to it can be sourced by articles from these outside references [3], [4], [5]. I also think, notwithstanding the juicy personality anecdotes, that this may well be best summarized in a paragraph. JNW (talk) 19:00, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Sounds good. I'm not even sure that this is of lasting importance so a paragraph may be overkill unless there are further developments, actions, or repercussions. ElKevbo (talk) 20:22, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
A social evening beckons, but I'd like to return to this and cut it back, perhaps to two sentences, using better sources. If you get there first feel free to have at it, ElKevbo. Thanks, JNW (talk) 21:11, 16 March 2014 (UTC)