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Mass times acceleration
People keep quoting force equals mass times acceleration when speaking of punching power, and interpret it wrong. The force of the punch is determined by the deceleration after impact and the mass behind the punch. More padded gloves increase the distance over which the deceleration occurs and therefore the rate of the deceleration. Thus the decelerating force on the hand is reduced (transferred to the rest of the body's mass behind the punch) and the corresponding acceleration and force on the target is reduced. Larger gloves also dissipate the force over a larger area. Holymolytree2 07:39, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Protection to the Opponent
Can idiots please stop saying that the main purpose of boxing gloves is to protect the wearer? The gloves protect both athletes but the most important aspect is to protect the opponent. If boxing gloves weren't worn, even in the absence of KOs, fighters would be getting severe eye injuries, severe facial lacerations, etc. Someone wrote that professional fight gloves are specially designed to only protect the wearer, which is one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard in my life. The gloves make a BIG difference to the recipient of a punch, though the effect is greater on the reduction of localised trauma than the prevention of an actual KO. Jesus Christ, just get some gloves and try being hit with them, then try being hit by a bare knuckle.
Has anywone heard about the story of Billy Collins vs Luis Resto? Panama Luis, Resto's trainer, took padding out of Resto's glove. Collins ended up with eye damage and could never fight again, and Resto and Lewis both got sent to jail. Now can someone please explain to me, if boxing gloves are designed to protect the wearer and not the opponent, why would Lewis have taken the padding out of the gloves?
God, I'm amazed at the stupidity of some people.
- True. Gloves where introduced to make boxing appear more civilized. Less cuts and bruises, protecting the hands was a side effect that let people hit harder then before, but not the original goal of the gloves. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Canadian Ninja (talk • contribs) 05:10, August 23, 2007 (UTC).
- It's critical that we get some sources for the claim that boxing gloves are either safer or less safer than bare-knuckled fighting. What we have there now is an egregious example of original research. Nareek 16:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Original research? Panama Lewis went to jail for taking padding out of his fighter, Luis Resto's gloves. The opponent suffered permanent eye damage. Holymolytree2 (talk) 15:13, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- That isn't stated anywhere. Furthermore, that constitutes an example, hardly a verified source. I agree, this entire article is, in fact, "an egregious example of original research." The whole thing needs to be cited ASAP, and probably re-written. Marshaul (talk) 10:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Here's a reference: http://www.bma.org/ap.nsf/AttachmentsByTitle/PDFboxingdebate/$FILE/TheBoxingDebate.pdf Quoting from it: "Gloves are designed to protect the fists of the wearer and do nothing to prevent brain injury unless they are so large as to be unwieldy. Indeed, the bare fist prize fighters of the past were able to sustain very long matches because the force of the punches was less than in modern times." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 11:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm also going to remove part of the seciton under 'advantages depending on the weight of the glove', as it's unsourced, and according to the reference above, wrong. Comments like this: "Jesus Christ, just get some gloves and try being hit with them, then try being hit by a bare knuckle." are unhelpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 11:22, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
what about moving this?
Can someone add to the article why there are different sizesand weights of boxing glove ? Why do they vary so much ? 6oz 8oz 10oz 12oz 14oz 16oz ? ? ? How do people choose ? Does it depend on the competition or the fighter ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 15:36, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
"Bare-knuckle rules also allowed grappling all this is fake and throws, and some of the deaths were caused by a fighter hitting his head on a stone or rail."