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Continental breakfast[edit]

Although this is the traditional breakfast of mainland Europe,

This is incorrect, even if it is partially undone at the end of the section, when it says that there is no unified breakfast culture on "Continental Europe". It may contain elements from many traditional breakfast cultures on "the continent", but it is very much a English term, referring to a English breakfast that is different from the traditional English one. Gerald Jarosch (talk) 20:52, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

The Middle East[edit]

I came to this page hoping it would help me straighten out what a common breakfast in The Middle East would consist of. Turkey is represented, which helps some, but the greater Mid-East and North Africa are unrepresented. Can anyone help fill this section in? Jmgariepy (talk) 08:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


Unreferenced sections removed[edit]

Again, this article has become bloated with unreferenced content, so I have removed all of it (since a large percentage has been unsourced for over two years). Please only add sourced material to this article. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 09:35, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Well done. Logical Cowboy (talk) 16:05, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Added back in Oceania section. Hopefully there are enough citations to satisfy everybody. Also have lived in several cities in both countries most of my life.60.234.229.163 (talk) 22:22, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Some of these unreferenced sections should be added back using the {{Section OR}} template. I added this template to the under-referenced and unreferenced sections remaining on this page. Unreferenced material violates Wikipedia's No Original Research policy. - ʈucoxn\talk 22:08, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Recent Edits[edit]

However is holding this page's content hostage-- please bring it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.248.176 (talk) 03:05, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

While I appreciate your strict adherence to sourcing dogma, this article has been shorn of 90% of its former usefulness.

It is also strange that most foreign sections were removed yet the sections concerning North America remain, even when most of those sections are completely unreferenced as well.

Well done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.31.138 (talk) 08:59, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Every section remaining has at least one reference. If you want to add more, feel free to do so, but only if they are referenced. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 09:56, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
What is useful about unreliable information? Logical Cowboy (talk) 03:11, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Exactly how reliable does a page on breakfast options need to be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.129.102.115 (talk) 23:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

The single reference in the "Traditional" subsection under "United States and Canada" is a Salmon Croquettes Recipe. The website doesn't seem RS either. I've removed this subsection. El0i (talk) 03:44, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Worrisome[edit]

I was a frequent visitor to the former "Breakfast" page. It was incredibly interesting and useful. Now, almost none of it is here anymore. What happened!!???? It is an extreme disservice. I don't even know how to post comments, I am just trying my best to get in contact with someone. Really horrible choice, extremely disappointing to see 2-3 countries up there, when there used to be good info on tens of countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.124.81.149 (talkcontribs) 06:07, 5 February 2012‎ (UTC)

The problem with most of the entries was that they were unsourced. Anything that can be sourced can be added back, but unsourced information will not be allowed here as it gets too out of control to easily handle when we have no idea where people are pulling their "facts" from. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:35, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I see that. However, I'm going to throw my hat in the ring with the others and say this was excessive. Much of the info and photos seemed to be user-contributed, rather than from official sources. As others have said, how official does a page about cultural breakfast food have to be? People can serve as references in and of themselves. Though, why not give a 30-45 day waiting period to find sources for the existing information, rather than deleting everything and building it back from scratch? The bottom line is, the information here is deficient, and the page is much less informative than it was before.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.174.109.60 (talk) 22:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Please refer to WP:VERIFIABILITY and WP:RELIABLESOURCES. The editors can not be the sources of the articles. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 08:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


Could you please be more specific about the parts which you found were useful, which appear to have gone now? This page has been edited many times since December 11 2011, so it would be helpful if you could be a little more specific and clarify WHICH of the article you thought was useful which now appears to have gone. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:44, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

As one example, "continental breakfast" redirects here, and there is no longer a single mention of "continental" on this page, despite "continental breakfast" being linked to from full breakfast.


If that is so I would have to agree with you that significant content has been lost. I can back to this discussion when I have perused the current article more thoroughly. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:12, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

OK, I have now added a little on the continental breakfast, but can some please help - that should have gone under the sub-heading "Europe" but I accidentally put in two many sub-headings. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Better refs needed, though; see WP:RS (and WP:CITE for the correct way to add them). Yunshui  10:17, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


What has happened here violates the basic idea of wikipedia, being a collection of knowledge where everybody can contribute. Whereas I have no doubt that information that can be backed up with reliable sources should be used above anything else, I strongly think that unsupported information is far better than no information, as far as it does not concern living people. Stubbornly sticking to citing guidelines for a topic like breakfast is certainly the wrong way to go with wikipedia articles, as can be easily seen by this example (compare an early December 2011 version of it to the current one - it practically became a stub which is directly the opposite of the initial idea of wikipedia which I understand is COLLECTING information (to be improved by anyone), not removing it). I suggest a more balanced approach in applying citing guidelines, particularly removing parts of the article, taking into account how controversial a topic is. In this case for instance, I would not force anyone to adhere to citing guidelines as breakfast is not controversial, but encourage modifications if someone went to a country and has experienced breakfast habits different from what was told by the article AND use citation to make information more solid. I will raise these concerns with the wikipedia team, as well, as I find this a dangerous development. People have spent their freetime and created a great article putting in much effort, just to observe how some months later a bureaucrat deletes most of it, leaving a really uninformative article that used to be almost completed. How motivating will that be to its authors to contribute more to wikipedia? Whereas wikipedia has grown big, I think having motivated writers is still far more essential than sticking to any citing rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.173.163.211 (talk) 10:52, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Some of these unreferenced sections should be added back using the {{Section OR}} template. I added this template to the under-referenced and unreferenced sections remaining on this page. Unreferenced material violates Wikipedia's No Original Research policy. - ʈucoxn\talk 22:08, 4 January 2013 (UTC)




Do you really think all this should be deleted? I am sitting in a library and trying to find references. Wikipedia being a collection of knowledge where everybody can contribute, as someboby said here, it is sad that all this work should vanish.

And it is not such a big difference from what this book: Breakfast Around the World IBSN 0941367460 is saying!

Hafspajen (talk) 15:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Picture Overlap Question[edit]

Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia language in the edit window. Could anyone please tell me what I would need to do so that the "Toast with vegemite" picture in this article on breakfast doesn't overlap the text in the gallery section right above it? Also, did I post this message in the correct place?

Thanks! 24.25.219.210 (talk) 22:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)O.C.

I took care of it. It just needed to be moved to the right. 70.90.87.73 (talk) 13:24, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Query about the Mexican breakfast[edit]

Never having been to Mexico, I do not not know what Mexican breakfast is like. However, it did seem to rather a contradiction to say that breakfast is the lightest meal of the day, and then to add "Therefore, three courses are common place". ACEOREVIVED (talk) 22:13, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Breakfast#United States and Canada[edit]

Not Canada and the United States? Lumped together is slightly annoying, but why USA first? Is this due to population? Canada is alphabetically first and first mentioned in the section. Plus, Canada has better bacon, and we don't have grits -- horrible, horrible grits. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:02, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Old saying about breakfast[edit]

There is quite a lot of information in this article, at the beginning of the article, on how some nutritionists have considered breakfast to be the most important meal of the day. Given that this information is here, could this article include reference to the old saying about breakfast: "Breakfast like a king, lunch like a princess, supper like a pauper"? This information could go at the beginning of the article, where the information on the nutritionists is. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:15, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Just in case any one is curious, I have just done a Google search, and the fountainhead of that proverb appears to be Adelle Davis. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

First image titled "Western breakfast foods"[edit]

I suspect that this is not a typical breakfast plate but either an unusual breakfast plate (served in a fancy hotel?) or rather a collection of breakfast foods on 1 plate and hence somewhat unrepresentative. I'd rather see an image of a typical breakfast plate. And I suggest that this is not "Western" breakfast foods but more accurately "American" breakfast foods. I live in the UK, travel in Europe and have never seen a strawberry dipped in chocolate for breakfast. I guess I'm uncomfortable with people thinking this is what most westerners eat for breakfast. Sorry I don't have a better image to suggest. Asmoe (talk) 09:15, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

  1. ^ Korean breakfast
  2. ^ "Wandering Chopsticks: Banh Mi Hot Ga Op La (Vietnamese French Bread with Sunnyside-Up Eggs)". Wanderingchopsticks.blogspot.com. 2008-02-03. Retrieved 2010-09-07.