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A fact from Bride buying appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 May 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that bride-buying, although illegal, still takes place in some countries?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2011/May.

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Off topic[edit]

Under 'Further Reading', you have included 'Winchester, Nicole. Buying the Perfect Bride'. This is a critique of the Martha Stewart bridal magazine, and has nothing to do with the topic of bride-buying, as covered in this article. Valetude (talk) 08:39, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I looked at the PDF and deleted the list item. In the future, feel free to make such edits yourself. Nick Levinson (talk) 17:24, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Western perception is overriding neutrality on this topic[edit]

'illegal industry' Why are we using a word illegal when this practice is not only legal in countries such as Iraq, Syria, Iran, parts of India but a serious part of the culture. I find it extremely biased for weasel words like "illegal" to sneak into articles. 24.239.126.78 (talk) 19:55, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the current lead

Bride-buying, also referred to as bride-purchasing, is the industry or trade of purchasing a bride as a form of property. This enables the bride to be resold or repurchased at the buyer's discretion. This practice continues to have a firm foothold in parts of the world such as China, India and Africa.[where?] Described as a form of marriage of convenience, the practice is illegal in many countries.

is clearly wrong. It's just describing slavery, whereas bride buying is the purchase of a bride... leading to marriage and having nothing to do with any right of resale. In particular, the practice as described has absolutely nothing to do with China or India, in both of which it is common to pay for brides but the marriage is absolutely not 'convenient' or in any way transferrable or fungible. — LlywelynII 22:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

on coemptio as "marriage by purchase"[edit]

The following or something based on it may belong in this article:

Coemptio has sometimes been viewed as "marriage by purchase":<ref>H.J. Rose, Patricians and Plebeians at Rome", in Journal of Roman Studies, 12 (1922), p. 124.</ref> it was a transaction carried out through the mechanism of mancipatio, which conveyed ownership of property.

It's from a recent revision of the wife selling article (not the first appearance of similar text). I'd rather that someone else made the judgment for this article, as I haven't gotten the source for the first part and only guess that the source for the remainder is Forsythe, Gary, "Ubi tu gaius, ego gaia". New Light on an Old Roman Legal Saw, in Historia, 45.2 (1996), p. 241, possibly citing Watson, A., Rome of the Twelve Tables (Princeton, 1975), p. 9 ff. (per an old revision of the wife selling article).

Nick Levinson (talk) 19:19, 20 July 2013 (UTC) (Deleted redlink & clarified link's relevance: 19:27, 20 July 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Changes to article.[edit]

Hi everyone, a few classmates and I are working on editing this article for a class project. We plan on adding a history section and also sections for bride buying in Korea, Vietnam and Africa. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thank you! Mop8888 (talk) 19:16, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Africa is not a country[edit]

It says "Africa" wnd places among countries like China and Vietnam 88.230.241.215 (talk) 21:02, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Already 'fixed' but having location subsections for continents-as-a-whole alongside subsections for countries is both standard and (logically) fine. It simply reflects that there is enough content/importance to break out some countries separately, while other areas of the world have less content/importance and need to be handled together.

Africa tending to be treated that way systematically only because of lack of attention, interest, or reliable English sources is part of English Wiki's systematic WP:BIAS of course... but so is pretending this is a modern concept largely confined to Russian and East Asian women anxious to marry into one of the few parts of the developed world to conspicuously lack affordable health care. Treating this subject's history with a single paragraph exclusively focused on Jamestown is something of a ne plus ultra example of anglophone navel-gazing/obliviousness... but of course it should be improved by expansion of other treatment and ideally not by paring down the existing coverage solely in the name of WP:UNDUE. — LlywelynII 21:07, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]