Talk:Bruce Lee

Some miscellaneous stuff

There was this picture on his burial... It said he was buried next to his son Brandon's grave... I think there was something wrong with the structure of the sentence. He died before his son didn't he? So shouldn't it be his son was buried next to him, not he was buried next to his son's grave, cuz it kindof brings out the sequence of events, which is kindof awkward... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.2.125 (talk) 13:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Gary Elms

"Lee defeated three-time champion British boxer Gary Elms". I can't find any other sources that even mention this name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reonidas (talk • contribs) 05:14, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

it already says earlier in the article that the tournament took place only one year after lee had begun to be taught boxing at xavier by brother ___. he also had only studied kung fu starting at 13, and got little sparring because his mother was half german. this was obviously not a hong kong high school championship, as stated in the article, but a tournament between a few catholic schools with novice school boy boxers, and gary elms was NOT a 3-time champion. a lot of the sources for this information were from bruce lee's friend (and employee), who was hardly impartial and a noted liar. bruce lee won ONE novice school-boy tournament between a few catholic schools and had limited kung fu training in hong kong as well, if you really look at the dates and facts of this article. nothing against the man, but sometimes it's hard to separate fact from fiction when it comes to his admirers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.209.199 (talk) 04:26, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Odd that Gary Elms is a three-time British boxing champion but his name can only be found in articles or books about Bruce Lee. The sport of boxing is pretty well known for keeping exhaustive records at least as far back as 1882. 211.133.143.74 (talk) 05:27, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Not really, I used to think that, too, about boxing, but found out in reality it has more to do with which particular organization is keeping the records.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 06:25, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

legally speaking, it is impossible to be Chinese/ American

I'm an American citizen, born in Ohio, that has lived in China for close 10 years (Jan 2002). Since then, I've married a Chinese and have had 2 kids born in Shanghai. It is legally impossible by both US & Chinese law to be American/Chinese citizen. I looked into it, I spoke with high dollar lawyers. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP BETWEEN THE 2 COUNTRIES!!!! Bruce Lee was a person born in China that became an American. please correct your literature and while at it, check the laws. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.38.77.27 (talk) 13:46, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Your statement is false. Bruce Lee was born in California. He was never a Chinese citizen, although he did grow up in the British crown colony of Hong Kong. — Myasuda (talk) 15:51, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure "Chinese American" is not at all referring to dual citizenship. Lee was born in the U.S. and so is a full American citizen COMPLETELY LEGAL. The added word "Chinese" is in reference to his genetic identity. As is the term African American does not refer to dual citizenship of U.S. and Africa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.62.206 (talk) 10:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

"Genetic identity" you say. Shouldn't he be called a "Han American" then? 184.96.202.120 (talk) 16:11, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Electric shock

In Linda's rendition of Lee's life, she briefly mentions his usage of body electrodes and electric shocks to exercise his body. A documentary on Lee's life I watched many years ago blamed his ever-increasing usage of electrical body shocks as the cause of his death. I don't see any mention of this at all in this article. Is this a controversial issue? – Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  07:34, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

I believe it's simply unsubstantiated. Was there any doctors support for the documentary? Was the documentary picked up by others and pursued? Just because it was in a documentary doesn't mean it's true or verifiable. Padillah (talk) 15:30, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

This claim is mere conjecture unless verifiable sources can be found with evedice of electrode usage for muscle gain is dangerous/deadly. Therefore it does not belong on the page..yetP0PP4B34R732 (talk) 20:05, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both very much, Padillah and P0PP4B34R732! All makes sense to me. – Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  06:19, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

When you said "Linda's rendition" above, what exactly did you mean? I did perform a search on this topic, but only found a reference to electric shock in "The Tao of Bruce Lee: A Martial Arts Memoir" by Davis Miller (Chapter 22) and this claim did not appear to have a source attached to it. Regarding the documentary you mentioned, I suspect you're referring to the movie Bruce Lee: The Man, The Myth which cannot be regarded as reliable. — Myasuda (talk) 13:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

As an ACSM-CPT I can not see how the stim treatment could do that08:29, 15 December 2011 (UTC)MPB21 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MPB21 (talk • contribs)

Misleading quote about striking speed

I've seen YouTube comments where users claimed that Bruce Lee could throw punches within "1/500" of a second. I believe this notion originated from this article on Wikipedia which states: "Lee's striking speed from three feet with his hands down by his side reached five hundredths of a second," taken from John Little and interpreted by some to mean "1/500".

However, another quote by Jesse Glover was "We setup a pad for him to hit with a cut off switch behind some padding. We had a clock that timed in 100's of a second. From eighteen inches away Bruce had to react to a light that went off and started the clock. When he hit the pad it stopped the clock. Bruce's quickest time was 5 hundredths of a second. His slowest time was 8 hundredths of a second." I don't have a proper citation for this quote, but it should be clear by this wording that in either situation, the lengths of time referred to were 0.05 second to 0.08 second, respectively, not "1/500" or "1/800". Shawnc (talk) 08:20, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Here you can see the actual quote by Mr. Glover, taking from the book "Bruce Lee - Between Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do".

• http://imageshack.us/f/840/gloverbetweenwcandjkdti.jpg/

Now any speculation should be over. --Niten Doraku (talk) 13:32, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 December 2011

Under Occupation, the phrase " martial arts founder" Can that be changed to martial arts practinioner" or deleted completley, as any philosopher knows, Bruce practiced, not founded the term nor the act of "martial arts" I would surely apreciate it. Sincerely A fan of both, Wiki & Bruce

208.54.39.248 (talk) 10:54, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 23:24, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

"Martial arts founder" simply means he founded a system, obviously not all martial arts. Are some people so slow that they think orherwise?--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 06:28, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Criticism?

There is plenty of criticism for this fairy tale for grown-ups. 184.96.242.187 (talk) 16:35, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

There are plenty of anecdotes and documented cases of his less-than-perfect temper (the time he threatened to beat Robin's actor to within an inch of his life if the script wasn't changed to have Kato win a fight comes to mind) and similar imperfections. We should probably include them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.202.186 (talk) 14:57, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Caucasian mother ?

"his mother, Grace Ho (何愛瑜) was half Chinese and half Caucasian." What does Caucasian mean here? From the Caucasus or "white"?

She was half-German per page 20 of:

Lee, Linda (1989). The Bruce Lee Story. United States: Ohara Publications. ISBN 0897501217. http://books.google.ca/books?id=2NAuMRjSUSIC&lpg=PP1&dq=The%20Bruce%20Lee%20Story&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=true. 

Myasuda (talk) 21:52, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, in other languages in wikipedia correctly quoted as German! "Caucasian" sounds like "I don't know exactly"! - why not yet corrected??? (Dr. H. Alquiros) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.173.167.27 (talk) 05:24, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

50 one arm chinups

I highly doubt that he was able to do this. The best rock climbers and gymnasts in the world can do no more than 10 in a row. The most ever recorded is 27 but they were done dynamically and so don't really count. I don't have John Little's book so I can't check the reference. Can someone give the actual quote and where the source for this comes from originally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.22.82 (talk) 17:03, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I found the quote from Little's book. The quote is from Lee's workout partner George Lee. "Bruce was exceptionally strong. I vividly remember seeing him perform 50 one-arm chin-ups one day in Oakland. It was incredible!..." It doesn't say that he did them in a single set. He could have done them one at a time with a rest between each one, and it doesn't mention how dynamic they were. I'd say that the way it's written in the physical feats section is misleading since it says 50 reps, which normally means in a single set without rest. I wonder if George is still around to give us more detail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.22.82 (talk) 17:29, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Bruce Lee's Nutritional Supplements

This is a note more for myself. Can anyone tell me what "Acerola – C and B-Folia" are as stated in the article? A Google search gives me the products prices and such but no explanations. Also, Wikipedia itself doesn't seem to have anything on these supplements.70.79.55.114 (talk) 09:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)BeeCier