Talk:Buenos Amigos

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Buenos Amigos/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 13:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments

  • Álvaro Torres has a diacritic.
  • "artist Selena from his sixth studio album" odd one this, but unless you know for sure that Selena is a female, this sentence could be confusing.
  • "the song explores a friendship built on stronger feelings by the male narrator, whilst the female narrator only wants to stay friends as her feelings are not the same." I know what you're saying here, but this isn't ideal prose. It's a song exploring a relationship where the male narrator's feelings are stronger than those of the female, need to think of a good way to reword.
  • "Thinking negativity about the outcome" -> again, poor prose, but at the least you would say "Thinking negatively" but it still could use a re-word.
  • "first top charter" do you mean "first chart topper"?
  • "The recording helped Selena an..." so it was this recording among others? Or were they nominated for this recording? If the latter, then it should be "recording led to", if the former then we may need to look for a more wholesale reword.
  • ""Buenos Amigos" was written by Salvadoran recording artist Alvaro Torres" yes, cover it again, but don't pretty much repeat it and relink it verbatim.
  • "a showcase that American Tejano pop singer Selena was" -> "a showcase in which American ..."
  • "Torres instantly wanted" immediately is a little more usual than "instantly".
  • "Torres told Selena Remembered" -> "Torres said in..."
  • "death in 1995, by her friend and ex-employer Yolanda Saldivar,[6]" you have death "by" someone, you can be murdered "by" someone. Needs reword, or just to focus on Selena's death, not how it happened, which isn't strictly relevant here. Or you could say "following Selena's murder" or something?
  • ""Yo la invité a cantar conmigo cuando ella no era muy conocida, y escribí el tema "Buenos amigos"; esa canción me trae gratos recuerdos. La gente nunca olvidará a Selena y esa melodía es una de mis preferidas."[18]" yeah, this isn't very helpful in English-language Wikipedia is it?
  • "orchestra-instrumentation " no need for hyphen, and perhaps just "orchestra instruments"
  • "hurt her severally" severely.
  • "Supplement A-Z" en-dash.
  • Who is Joe Nick Patoski and why should I care what he says?
  • "It contains both artists" It features...
  • Spaced or unspaced em-dashes used throughout the latter sections of the article? be consistent.
  • "this wasn't enough" avoid contractions.
  • All non-English references should have a language parameter added.
  • Ref 1 has a spare full stop.
  • English-language sources don't need "in English".
  • We have Category:Álvaro Torres songs and Category:Songs written by Álvaro Torres, what's the difference?

A lot of work to do. I know how keen you'll be to fix it all so I'll put the article on hold for a week, but after that I'll fail it, it needs to have some good work done on the prose. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Doing... jonatalk to me 18:01, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
User:AJona1992, can I have an update on this please? It's been nearly two weeks. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:29, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I checked AJona1992's contributions list to see what was going on. His most recent edit was the above notice. He has not edited the article attached to this nomination since May; the last edit to the article by anyone was in July. LazyBastardGuy 20:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I'll fail this for the moment. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:50, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Buenos Amigos/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 13:30, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


Hi, I'll take this one. Should complete this within a day or two Jaguar 13:30, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

Initial comments[edit]

  • The lead mentions nothing on what critics though of the single? This can easily be achieved by shifting some content from the reception section
  • The second paragraph says "Critics praised the song for being Selena's first number one, while others complimented its ballad-like feeling."
  • Typically 'Reception' should be its own section, or that's what I've seen with every other music GAN I've reviewed?
  • Yes check.svg Done
  • Furthermore, in the Composition and reception section, who are the people that are reviewing the single? I assume they're critics but do they work for any magazines/websites? Examples include Herón Márquez, Angie Chabram-Dernersesian and Joe Nick Patoski
  • This section does specify their works (example, "In his book Latin Sensations, Herón Márquez"). I did add Lorena Flores as an editor for The Dallas Morning News.
  • Track listing section should usually be at the bottom of the article, below any prose (or in this case, just below 'Chart Performance')
  • Yes check.svg Done
  • ""Buenos Amigos" received more airplay when it fell to number two than it did when it was at number one" - this needs a citation
  • Ref#44 (Latin Notas, Billboard) cites this claim.

References[edit]

  • Fixed
  • Fixed

On hold[edit]

Overall this is a well written article with very few prose issues to point out. The only thing I could find were some organisational questions, and something that could be added in the lead. This shouldn't be too hard to address. I'll leave this on hold for the standard seven days, thanks! Jaguar 19:42, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I have fixed everything that needed to be fixed per your comments. Best, jona(talk) 18:54, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Close - promoted[edit]

Thank you for addressing them in time, looks like it is a good GA candidate in its own right. I believe they have all been addressed, so promoting Good article Jaguar 19:45, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your review! Best, jona(talk) 23:37, 24 February 2015 (UTC)