Talk:Buzzard
[edit] Exhaustive list of Buteo species? What for?
According to what's written in the Old World and New World sections, it's inconsistent to include New World-only Buteos in the list. The Red-Tailed Hawk is not a buzzard, by either the New World or the Old World conventions. Loads of other examples. Somebody please clean it up: I would do it but I don't presume to know what's most appropriate on the list - all I know is that the inconsistency is glaring. 68.121.151.166 02:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)Me either because i don't even like cleaning up my room
Please explain in detail why the Red-tailed hawk doesn't fit the Old World description. In the UK all members of the genus Buteo are buzzards by definition. Buzzards are small to medium sized diurnal birds of prey, with long broad wings and medium length tails and legs. They are active predators and very seldom feed on carrion. All members of the genus Buteo are buzzards, including the Red-tail. Though we Americans commonly refer to them as hawks, strictly speaking they are not. True hawks have short rounded wings, long legs and talons, and long tails, and belong to the genus Accipiter, such as A. gentilis (Goshawk) and A. cooperii (Cooper's hawk). The problem is Americans with little knowledge of birds persist in confusing the term buzzard with New World vultures, such as the Black vulture and the Turkey vulture. Use of the word buzzrd should be discouraged unless used accurately, specifically as a common term for the members of genus Buteo. ENScroggs (talk) 19:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
[edit] New World/Old World
I am not particularly knowledgeable in this field, but using that terminology is somewhat confusing and antiquated (in my opinion). Wouldn't Afro-Eurasia/The Americas be clearer? 131.231.233.52 (talk) 22:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
[edit] New and Old Worlds???
The New and Old World definitions are really confusing and vague. One shouldn't have to look up what they mean to find out about a bird. Secondly, do non-English speaking people use the word 'Buzzard'? If not, any mentions of 'Old World' and 'Europe' could be replaced with 'UK and Ireland'. Likewise, 'New World' presumably means the US and Canada here. JeffersonFootranch (talk) 20:56, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oh dear, such a narrow US view of the world. South Africa, Kenya, Jamaica, Uganda, Nigeria, St Lucia, Guyana, Ghana, Australia, Dominica, Namibia... the list goes on, and that's not counting India with its millions of fluent English speakers; and you might find that there are one or two people who can speak English very well in, for example, The Netherlands and Scandinavia. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:51, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Vultures are not buzzards, regardless of how many people learned otherwise from watching factually inaccurate western movies during their childhood. 08:08, 25 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.133.198.203 (talk)
