Talk:California Dreamin'

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Tradition of Incorrect Lyrics?[edit]

For some time I have been going crazy trying to determine the words to a line in this song. Without exception everyone assures me I am wrong. Even the official lyrics of the song say I'm wrong, but I can't convince myself that I am because the line (as accepted by most), simply doesn't make sense. The line in the song which is in question is this: "You know the preacher likes the cold." I am convinced that the line says "You know the preacher lights a cove."

I have listened to the song HUNDREDS of times and though sometimes I can almost hear "The preacher likes the cold", I always draw the same conclusion: "The preacher lights a cove". For one thing, SO WHAT if the pracher liked the cold or not...what does it add to the meaning of the song? Nothing! It's just a random line thrown in. However, the other possible line makes perfect sense in the context of the song: A vagabond is walking on a winter day and gets cold. He decides to go inside a church because he knows he can find shelter there. Not wanting to appear to be the vagabond he is, he drops to his knees and pretends to pray, for fear the priest might throw him out. The priest however is not fooled by this deception. He knows full well what the person is doing and why he is there. Taking pity, the priest then lights a cove (alcove). In traditionally designed Churches, alcoves (coves) are small cubbies in the end of the chapel, usually filled with prayer candels for devotions. Allowing the man to keep his dignity, the priest "plays along" with the deception and lights these candels, warming the cove, since he knows the man is intending to stay for awhile to get warm. THIS makes sense to me within the context of the song.

I know in the grand scheme of things, what does this really matter, but everytime I hear this song (which I love) it drives me crazy trying to figure out what is being said. I'd be intersted in anyone else's thoughts and opinions on this. Is it possible that somehow when the song was first performed, that the person who wrote the official lyrics for the album jacket may have gotten them wrong himself and no one bothered to correct the error?! Is it EVEN an error in the first place! I have to admit, sometimes it does sound like it MIGHT be "The preacher likes the cold" but again...that just doesn't make sense to me. Thanks for the input.

They say "like the cold" and it makes perfect sense. Sorry to burst your bubble. The reason you can't hear anything else is because it's stuck in your mind already. Language is highly susceptible to suggestion.

Disney California Adventure[edit]

I removed the Disney California Adventure from the trivia section because it already appeared in the use section. Rissole 09:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


Benassi[edit]

Benny Benassi remixed this song, someone write anything about it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.198.23.235 (talk) 17:17, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Benny Benassi did NOT have anything to do with the song... online copies of the Royal Gigolos' original bootleg cover version have been credited to Benassi, when it is actually the Gigolos. Benassi had NOTHING to do with the track online, or the version the Gigolos released with a new chorus. See here: http://dancemusic.about.com/od/remixersproducers/a/BennyBenassi2k6_2.htm 123.243.236.11 (talk) 10:58, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Commercial[edit]

This song was on an television commercail that screened in Australia a few years ago for butter menthols. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.47.121.116 (talk) 12:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:TheMamasAndThePapas-IfYouCanBelieveYourEyesAndEars.jpg[edit]

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Whiny bot alert. Crush its non-existent head.Obbop (talk) 15:08, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Cover versions[edit]

This whole section needs to be removed. None of these covers are as well-known or noticed as the original version by the Mamas & the Papas. If they had achieved some renown, there'd be a reason to include them. As it is, they haven't. Right now, they're just cluttering the article and need to go. Every two-bit artist that's released an album covering this very well-known song has an entry. It's not improving the article at all. I'm going to trim the list significantly. If you object, please discuss it here. Thanks! — Frecklefσσt | Talk 19:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Everything above goes for the Significant artistic and commercial uses section as well. This is a very popular song and it's used in numerous movies and video games. Not all of these occurrences are very notable. Sometimes it's just a background song, sometimes the movie is forgettable. We don't need to list all of them; it doesn't help, it hurts. Less is more. Only when the song is prominently featured in an important or high-profile work should it be listed. I know this is subjective, but let's use some judgment here. Long lists of forgettable uses doesn't help anyone. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 19:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I'm going to remove everything in the "Cover versions" section except for the lead-in to that section. If anyone objects, say so now or forever hold your peace. There is nothing particularly notable in the sections that merit keeping them cluttering up the article. If no one objects, I'll remove the sections in the next few days. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 04:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Done. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:21, 8 March 2009 (UT

I'm wondering if there are any details supporting "The Beach Boys recorded two versions of the song". I can only find evidence of the version with Roger McGuin; according to the article, there is a prior version as well. If this is true, it should be explained, if not true, it should be removed.

A cover is really a recording released immediately after a first recording intended to compete with on the charts (or "cover") that first recording while bypassing having to pay an initial one-time payment for the song. For this to work, the cover has to be released very shortly after the first recording and well before that recording has completed its sales trajectory (after the first recording has begun to descend the charts is too late). A cover certainly and absolutely is not any recording or performance of any piece not written by the performer. (In fact, in the classic and clearest case the song will not have been written by the performers on the first recording, on the recording being covered.)
An initial one-time payment is usually negotiated between a professional pop songwriter and those responsible for the first recording--the singer or his representative or the record company--because a professional pop songwriter couldn't possibly subsist on royalty rates set by federal law. But once a song has been commercially recorded or published, it is legal for anyone to record it as long as he pays this nominal royalty at this nominal rate.
After a pop song has had its initial run on the charts, it's impossible for it to be covered (ever). It's also impossible for anything in the public domain to be covered and impossible for anything already published to be covered. TheScotch (talk) 08:19, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

GOCE[edit]

  • All redirected & disambiguation links fixed.

Mlpearc pull my chain 'Tribs 16:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)