Talk:California sea lion

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Alaska/Bering Sea[edit]

Not sure if this is helpful to anyone, but on Discovery Channel's 'Deadliest Catch' series (season 2), a pair of wild Californian Sea Lions are filmed, whilst swimming in Dutch Harbor, Unalaska, Alaska. This is a fair bit farther north along the coastline, from British Columbia where the article (and accompanying map) states the most northerly sea lions are found. Cabrasucker (talk) 12:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Salmon[edit]

I think that the killing of these sea lions in an effort to save the salmon species should be addressed in this article.

I think that it was addressed but in a very biased way, in the status section. Also anyone know what an ESU is, or did I just miss out on that one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Navigator00 (talkcontribs) 01:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Undid vandalism by user 67.149.13.207 --Ulysses411 (talk) 22:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Towards FAC[edit]

OK, this article is on its way. The plan would be to add material until compreneshiveness is staisfied, then refereence everything and copyedit. GA may be worthwhile on the way. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Specific material to be added:

  • Military stuff is fascinating. Needs to be enlarged and reffed
  • Description needs expanding. Eye colour and vocalizations come to mind to go here. Also, differences between the 3 subspecies should be either here or in subspecies section.
  • Tourism in last bit - seeing them at SF harbour.


ANyone else who can see stuff which should be in the article please place here. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


sea lions[edit]

the sea lions get so interactive!!!!!!!! they acturly help humans if they are blind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.2.171 (talk) 17:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Lead image[edit]

IMHO Image:Lion de mer Amnéville 01.jpg (not my photo, so I don't have a dog in this fight) or equivalent should be the lead photo because it shows a single individual, whereas Image:Sealion052006.JPG shows a bunch of them and the bodies tend to blend into each other. I left the latter in the article, as 68.251.175.168 complained that we should keep it because it shows full-grown adults. If there are any objections, please raise them here before edit warring. Thank you. howcheng {chat} 18:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

The photo you suggest if of a sea lion in an unnatural environment. Also the current photo show a clearly defined individaul in the center and the blended in crowd is only in the background. Bobisbob2 (talk) 20:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I know they're in the background, but the point is that it's hard to make out the individual in the center (and I also hate to mention that a breakwater is not exactly a natural environment either). How about one of the following:

--howcheng {chat} 20:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay then. Bobisbob2 (talk) 15:15, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Public display and "entertainment"[edit]

In the debate over keeping animals in captivity, this article seems biased against the practice by repeatedly using "entertainment" as a catch-all description for all public display of sea lions. Marine parks and zoos, unlike circuses, are accredited institutions with educational missions. Even when training is a part of the animal's care (as it is in most zoos and aquariums) the assumption that training is done for entertainment purposes is flawed. Training is usually part of a comprehensive care plan that addresses psychological needs as well as physical ones.

Should there be something bringing up that training is a form of enrichment in the lives of captive animals, that leads to them being healther and better adjusted to their lives in captivity —Preceding unsigned comment added by Navigator00 (talkcontribs) 01:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:California sea lion/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 14:16, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

This is really well-written and well-referenced, but a few things are the problems here and there (mostly grammatical and spelling errors):

  • "...on sandy or rocky beach but can also been found in man-made environments.." in the lead - I fixed the grammatical mistake, no worries.
  • In the lead, better mention in a line the time of breeding (second paragraph).
Done.
  • You should rename the 'Classification' section as 'Taxonomy', most articles have it like that. In the first line tell who named the species and when.
Done.
  • In 'Appearance, physiology and movement',
link pelage to coat (animal). Readers may not understand it.
Done.
This likely because it is enough for them in their marine, coastal habitat. (last paragraph) It sounds a bit grammatically wrong.
Fixed.
  • In 'Range and habitat',
Sea lions may travel at speeds of around 10.8 km/h. Also give the conversion of km/h in m/h.
Didn't have success with that.
No worries, I have converted it.
  • In 'Life history',
It seems you forgot to link most of the section. Link some terms like: territory, gestation, blubber (what is this? Better tell a bit in the article) and such.
Done.
These groups begin to disintegrate as the females begin to mate.('Reproductive behavior and parenting', second paragraph) Add the s.
Done.
Molting takes place in autmun and winter. Misspelled.
Fixed.
In communication section, add a few more references.
Done.
Adult male California sea lions play no role in rasing pups ('Reproductive behavior and parenting', third paragraph). Misspelled.
Fixed.
Pups are weaned by a year but can continue to suckle for another year. ('Reproductive behavior and parenting', third paragraph). Change 'by' to 'for'.
"For" is not accurate.
  • In 'Intelligence and trainability',
Link the name of the biologist.
Done.
A sea lion may go through a year of training. Add 'h'.
Done.
In the Persian Gulf, the animals swim behind divers approaching a US naval ship, and attach a clamp, which is connected to a rope, to the diver's leg. The sentence is a bit difficult to understand - better split it or reword it.
Done.
  • In 'Status',
Link the places. Also the Humane Society.
Done.
PCB is a dablink.
Fixed.

Once you have corrected these things, I shall make it a GA. It deserves that. Cheers,--Sainsf <^>Talk all words 14:16, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you LittleJerry (talk) 19:08, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, now it seems the GA I wished it would be. So, I go on to reward it! --Sainsf <^>Talk all words 04:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)