Talk:Canon (priest)

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TODO: Move information from the subheadings into the much-referenced individual articles, which exists as stubs right now. Secular Canons, Canons Regular and add a blurb and link for Canonesses. There is enough information for large articles on each of these topics. Specifically it would be difficult to maintain lists of canons and information on them in the main article without cluttering it.

--Darkfred 13:34, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I meant to swing by this page earlier. There was a note left on my talk page requesting I comment on this page. Unfortunately, I don't really know anything about the topic in question - I just happened upon it while on RC patrol. --Blu Aardvark | (talk) | (contribs) 07:58, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Article says that dean and canons elect the bishop or archbishop. In the Anglican Communion and escpecially the CofE, this is not so. Bishops are elected by a meeting of representatives and clergy from the diocese that is vacant. A name is put forward, the merits of the candidate discussed and then voted upon. The Dean and Canons of the Cathedral could very well have no part in this process at all. That is my understanding, but open for correction of coarse!

Actually, as the article says they do legally speaking "elect" the (arch)bishop but these days (i.e.post-reformation) only after the Crown has told them precisely who it is they are going to elect... David Underdown 20:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

"Canon Residentiary"[edit]

"Canon Residentiary": What is this job, please? Vernon White . . . Talk 16:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

ON eof the canons who is actually resident at a cathedral, at least in the sense of having a permanent role there. They also normally have actually have a residence in the environs of the Cathedral. At an English Cathedral will include the Dean, possibly the precentor (although this is sometimes a Minor Canon's role I think), the Archdeacon in whose Archdeaconry the Cathedral lies and may be a few others. Slightly confusingly the minor canons may also be in residence, but are not Residentiary Canons in this sense as they are not fully part of the Cathedral Chapter. The Residentiary Canons are distinct from the Honorary Canons/Prebendaries are senior diocesan clergy, but with roles elsewhere in the diocese. It is the Reisdentiary Canons who carry out the day to day services of a cathedral, with one being "In Residence" at a time (normally for a fortnight or a month), who is usually responsible for, in particular, weekday services. I'll give some thought as to how this might be clarified in the article. David Underdown 20:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Another "Canon Residentiary" has cropped up on WP: John Rogers (divine). Presumably there are and were quite a lot of notable people with this job description. Vernon White . . . Talk 23:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Last two sentences go a bit technical ...[edit]

Hi. In this otherwise rather good and clear article, the last two sentences seem pretty layperson-unfriendly. That is, they certainly confused me, but may I am just being thick. Here they are:

"The Canons Regular ex professo united Holy orders with religious life, and being attached to a church, devoted themselves to promoting the dignity of Divine worship. With monks, Holy orders are accidental and secondary, and are superadded to the religious life; with canons as with the clerks regular, Holy orders are the principal thing, and the religious life is superadded to the Holy orders."

- if it's not just me, then I would love someone with a knowledge of the subject to please consider rewriting that into something more accessible to the average reader, to wit, me. :) Thanks. 138.37.199.206 (talk) 07:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I think what it's trying to say is that canons regular are first and foremost priests, the aspects of religious life that come from living by a rule are secondary to this, whereas in orders of monks or nuns, it is the religious life, living by the rule, albeit that some members of the order may be ordained (not RC nuns obviously). Can't quite think how best to tackle this in the article though. David Underdown (talk)

Canon to the Ordinary[edit]

In the Episcopal Church, the Canon to the Ordinary is a priest who assists a diocesan bishop, often taking care of personnel matters, churches who currently don't have a priest, and other duties. Does anyone have a source we can include for that? 150.243.64.15 (talk) 17:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Canon (Episc. church of the US)[edit]

Isn't the most common usage of Canon in the Anglican communion (or at least the Episc. Church of the USA) the main priest assigned to assist the dean of a cathedral? Friarslantern (talk) 19:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Regulary[edit]

"Regulary" is used in the lede paragraph - but does not appear to be a word in any dictionary I can find. Do you mean regularly? or is this some arcane specialist word? - in which case it should be defined. - Arjayay (talk) 18:08, 19 May 2011 (UTC)