Talk:Capitalist realism

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It would appear that this article is attempting to talk about two entirely different things that have little to do with one another, and neither to a great extent. Is there any reason why this shouldn't be split into two articles and given a disambiguation page? --Caturdayz (talk) 02:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I've moved the advertising material to the Michael Schudson article. No need for a separate disambiguition page seeing as few articles link here.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 01:05, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Contrasted to "Socialist realism"?[edit]

Capitalist "propaganda" has different, and often conflicting purposes. Advertising obviously has to fit the object or service marketed, and the sort of advertising of a life-insurance company ("Save For That Better Tomorrow") is very different from that for a cruise line ("Live Like a King Today!). Techniques of advertising are so diverse that they could hardly be discussed here. Institutional advertising is very different from product-related advertising. I know well that the word propaganda is the word in use for advertising in Spanish-speaking countries.

What would "capitalist realism" be in contrast to "socialist realism"? As with socialist realism, it would include glorification of industrial production, but only by capitalists, or big construction projects by private entities (let us say a privately-funded toll road) not funded by the government, or privatization of parts of the public sector. This would probably be little different in essence from "socialist realism" except that it would have to be more subtle and less clumsy because 'capitalist' states are generally less repressive than 'Socialist' states.

Another would be the glorification of tycoons, investors, and big land-owners, or politicians friendly to capitalists. But this is nothing new, and it didn't always have a political purpose. If it begins to have elements of propaganda (as in "The Shareholder Is the Worker's Best Friend" or "Al Dunlap, a True Hero of Workers"), it would be propagandistic. So would it be if it were a poster that derided "union bosses", "tree huggers", or "liberal do-gooders").

People who have a choice and some intellectual discretion generally recognize propaganda of any kind as such when it is one-sided ("Big Oil creates lots of jobs and makes your life easier) or when it is demonstrably false (cartel pricing is good for you). The higher the level of formal education over an extended time that people have and the greater the recent experience of freedom, the less vulnerable people are to the cruder forms of propaganda except when it is tailored for a self-selecting clique. Pbrower2a (talk) 17:41, 1 August 2011 (UTC)