Talk:Cappadocia

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Comment[edit]

Is there any sense of who the Cappadocians were? I'd assume they were Indo-Europeans, but was their language an Anatolian language, suggesting affinity to the Hittites and other aboriginal inhabitants of the area, or more closely related to Phrygian and Armenian, and thus of more recent arrival? Are there theories about this? john k 7 July 2005 21:01 (UTC)

Why is there no mention about the Greeks of Cappadocia or its late history? Petros The Greek 11:28, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

You should add something, just use the edit button. dml 13:58, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

This is doubtless trivial, but in the Simpsons, it is mentioned that the Cappadocians considered being Chief Hydrological Engineer a 'calling.' Is this simply random, or is there some historical in-joke? Tenthweb 19:21, 05 October 2005 (GMT)

The Simpsons reference is indeed a bit of a historical joke, being that the landscape of Cappadocia would make moving water from one place to another quite difficult. Thus, hydrological engineering would be a "calling" in that region. I find this Simpsons quote to be one of the funniest things I've ever heard on television. Sideshow Bob to his brother: "Cecil, no civilization in history has ever considered chief Hydrological Engineer a calling." [Cecil clears his throat] "Yes, yes, the Cappadocians; fine." kirkesque 16:10, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Mesothelioma: There appears to be a non-sequitur in this paragraph. The part after the word "but" is not necessarlly exclusive Danensis (talk) 17:48, 17 December 2011 (UTC).

Miscellaneous[edit]

Excerpt from Simpsons Episode

"The Brother From Another Series (#4F14)"

CECIL: "I suppose I should thank you, it led me to my true calling."

SIDESHOW BOB: "Cecil, no civilization in history has ever considered Chief Hydrological Engineer a 'calling'."

(Cecil glares at Bob, and clears his throat)

SIDESHOW BOB: "Yes, yes, the Cappadocians, fine."

I do not see why this should be in the article. Thus we could list all funny quotes or all mentions of Cappadocia. This is something to joke about on the TALK page but it is certainly not an encyclopedia material... --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 10:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
MANY articles have a "Cultural References" section that refer to times/places that the subject of a particular article have appeared in books/TV/movies etc. In this case, the general format would probably be something like: In the Simpson's episode "Brother from Another Series" the Cappadocians are acknowldged as the only "civilization in history that has ever considered Chief Hydrological Engineer a 'calling'."
I think it should be returned to the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.15.115.165 (talk) 18:07, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

Underground Cities[edit]

Methinks there should be more information about this in the article. Jachra 01:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


history[edit]

I just overlooked the map of Cappadocia, and it looks like during its time the Hurrian state of Kizzuwatna would have covered part of Cappadocia, so maybe we should add this to the history...?

Nearly a copyvio?[edit]

Although this edit regarding Tigranes the Great was acknowledged as a quotation, it may be too long to be a legitimate use. (The original is here) . Trimmed and inserted into its correct chronological order. Source citation expanded. Old Moonraker 07:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Where are these places?[edit]

Where was Pterium and Eyuk? They are mentioned in some old sources but don't have articles at WP yet. Badagnani (talk) 08:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Origin of name[edit]

The source listed for the "Persian" origin of the name has been cited as questionable. I agree with this. I spoke with people I know who know Old and modern Persian, and they can't make any sense of how the name has the meaning given ("land of beautiful horses"). It's likely that it's just made-up nationalist speculation. Someone who knows better should deal with this Firespeaker (talk) 08:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I see this horse etymology has now gone. However, I was told this too when I visited Turkey, and a search on the Web suggests the idea is very common, usually tracing it from the Persian. Yet, since the article says the word is not Persian, the reference to this language may not count. According to the OED, the natives were indeed known for breeding horses. Myrvin (talk) 10:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Commercial[edit]

The media section of the article has a youtube link to a commercial. While it does nicely display some of the scenery (and Azra Akin!) it's almost certainly a copyrighted film. As such, we probably shouldn't be linking to an illegally uploaded file. If there aren't any reasoned objections, I'll trim the link out. Matt Deres (talk) 14:15, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

I have removed the YouTube link. Matt Deres (talk) 01:48, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Mount Erciyes[edit]

There's a discrepancy between "Mount Erciyes 3916 m, the highest mountain in Cappadocia" and "Uçhisar Hill and Castle, the highest point in Cappadocia". One of these statements is wrong. I propose to remove the mountain, as I'm not sure it's actually within the province, but anyone with a more certain view please step in.--Old Moonraker (talk) 21:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Changed my mind: removed "highest point" instead. As before, oversight from more knowledgeable editor welcome.--Old Moonraker (talk) 06:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Hattusa the capital, really ?[edit]

In the sidebox it reads that the historical capital was Hattusa . What is meant by historical capital ? Capadocia as a political entity was established long after (~ 600 years) Hattusa was completely destroyed. besides Hattusa was not a part of Capadocia. I'll try to call the editor. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:05, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Fixed! Only took 18 months! Wikipedia!! john k (talk) 13:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Georgian name[edit]

What has Georgia to do with Cappadocia. Georgians never lived there in large numbers, or it wasn't under their control. So I don't see why we shoold keep it.--46.241.179.18 (talk) 07:51, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Needless. Modern Persian alternative name is also needless. Takabeg (talk) 08:07, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
I don't get it, you haven't answer my question. If the georgian name should be mentioned, maybe I should add the Chinese one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.78.178.59 (talk) 08:24, 24 September 2011 (UTC)