Talk:Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach

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I moved this here from Karl Philipp Emanuel Bach - the spelling with a C has virtually completely superceded the K spelling (both in English and German speaking countries). The article is a complete mess, by the way - I might clean it up later (but these 1911 articles are rather depressing...) --Camembert

A quick note on the children of Johann Sebastian Bach. He had 20 children total, 10 of whom survived into adulthood. He had 7 children with Maria Barbara and 13 children with Anna Magdalena. Nine of these children were female, and 11 male. I have changed the first line to say "the second of five sons of Sebastian and Maria Barbara", though "second of Sebastian's 11 sons would also be correct, or some variant like that. These number are from Table 11.1 in Christoph Wolff, Johann Sebastian Bach: The Learned Musician (New York: Norton, 2000): 396-8. --Tagith 03:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

There should be mention of CPEB's symphonies, which influenced Haydn's, as mentioned in the article on the latter -- Rothorpe 00.21, 1 January 2007 GMT

Don't attempt to clean it up until you have learnt to spell. For instance 'supersede' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.198.64.54 (talk) 11:04, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Solfeggietto[edit]

Does CPE have a list of works or a category yet? Something should point to Solfeggietto. DavidRF 04:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Works List[edit]

Should the works list that was recently added by Fbourgeois be moved to its own page, perhaps? At the very least, we could consider a table of some sort, giving cross-references between the Helm and Wotquenne numbers... food for though. --EvanCortens (talk) 15:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Bach was born in 1223 and died as soon as he was born! Love Preya Budhram! Not a Lie I n=know Bach he was my uncle isn't that awsome!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.138.139.183 (talk) 21:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Start class assessment[edit]

The content of this article is almost good enough to be a B-class article. Unfortunately, due to its relatively unsourced nature, and the wonderful (<-- sarcasm!) EB1911 writing, it will probably have to be rewritten.

The works list should definitely be in a separate article.

-- Magic♪piano 13:58, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

CPE Bach's Use of Harmonic Color[edit]

"He was probably the first composer of eminence who made free use of harmonic colour for its own sake since the time of Lassus, Monteverdi, and Gesualdo."

This is followed by the tag "Citation Needed," but you will never find an authoritative citation for such a bold claim. It beaspeaks ignorance of the French manner and composers such as Couperin and Rameau, not to mention some works of Bach's father. C.P.E. Bach's work in harmonic independence was important and very different from most other composers of his generation, but there is plenty of "free use of harmonic colour for its own sake" in between him and Monteverdi.

It might not hurt to mention something about C.P.E.'s influence on sturm und drang, his advocacy of "expressive style" (a term he coined) and his connection with literary figures of the time such as Klopstock.Pinikadia (talk) 13:01, 8 October 2010 (UTC)Pinikadia

This statement, along with the rest of the paragraph, were all taken from the online 1911 Britannica article w/o any footnote - also, it is copied verbatim. This should be paraphrased at the very least. HammerFilmFan (talk) 07:00, 29 March 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan

relationship with father, mother and step-mother should be mentioned[edit]

These three people would have had a large impact on his life. Additionally something should be said about his relationship with dad's 2nd wife after he died - the sons of wife #1 were a bit uncaring to the mother of JC Bach. HammerFilmFan (talk) 03:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan

Versuch über die wahre Art das Clavier zu spielen[edit]

This is the same thing as An Essay on the True Art of Playing Keyboard Instruments, so it is mentioned twice in the article in separate contexts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.7.249 (talk) 02:02, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Emanuel?[edit]

Why are we referring to him as "Emanuel Bach"? He is certainly not known as that today. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 06:17, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Not known as that by anyone? What about in the source repeated five times in the Notes section? — Eru·tuon 17:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

...and his father referred to as Sebastian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.198.64.54 (talk) 11:06, 15 March 2014 (UTC)