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Permanant Move[edit]

Source. The move has been confirmed by the club as permanent.

I believe Tévez didn't played the 2003 Youth World Cup, because he was with Boca playing the Intercontinental Cup against A.C Milan.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.235.185.218 (talkcontribs)

Hm, you've got a point:
"Tevez became embroiled in controversy when he opted to play for Boca in the European/South American Cup against AC Milan instead of travelling with the national side to the FIFA World Youth Championship UAE 2003. It was to be the first of many polemics involving the striker." FIFA World Cup.
He might have joined ot the final matches tough; I'll dig into it. Mariano(t/c) 06:55, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I seem to remember he flew back and joined the team later, but I can't remember. Sebastian Kessel Talk 14:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Nope, it seams he didn't go to the Emirates at all. Mariano(t/c) 09:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Tevez has NOT signed for West Ham

Heritage

What is his descent? The Links at the end of the side shows that he is also Anglo-Brazilian? Where´s the fact which certify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.53.52.177 (talk) 21:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC) yes he has! i dont believe it!!! what a signing

Semi-Protect?[edit]

Shouldn't the page be semi-protect? As in only registered users (not new accounts) can edit the article? -24.92.41.95 12:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Someone should have a look at one of his nicknames "Dumb Fool joining Hammers" looks like vandalism to me.

West Ham have now confirmed the transfer. They have announced they are permanent contracts, not loans.

West Ham Official Site

Re-Write[edit]

I think that this page requires a total rewrite. It looks to have been cobbled together mostly by people who don't speak English, has lots of ugly references and has never been written as a whole, just bits added here and there. Same pretty much goes for Mascherano. I don't have the time right now, but over the coming 3 or 4 days I'll do if it no-one else has by then. I think everyone can agree that two Premiership players (especially of the world class stature of this pair) should have decent pages!! DJDannyP//Talk2Me 16:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Tevez broke with his wife.[edit]

He separated from his wife, his current girlfriend is an actress from Argentina, called Brenda Asnicar. Correct it, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.66.153.25 (talk) 17:17, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Tévez vs Tevez[edit]

Browsing the web (carlitos' offical and unofficial sites) shows that only wikipedia has "Tevez" written with an accent on the first e. Claphands 18:30, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


I don't know really if it goes with an accent or not, but let me tell you a couple of things:
1) It doesn't make any difference on the pronunciation, so you cannot know how it is spelled by the way it is pronounced on radio or TV.
2) In spanish all words that finish with 'z' and are accentuated on the syllabe before the last one, must have a written accent. There are exceptions, though, and it doesn't fully apply to surnames, since many of them are not from spanish origin.
3) On the other hand, Clarin and La Nacion (the two most important journals in Argentina) and the official site of Tevez, all of them write the surname without the written accent.
I don't know why his name is without an accent; perhaps it was mispelled when the family did the papers to change their surname (that is a very likely option). Or, less likely, the name comes that way in its original form (I don't know the etymology of Tevez)
Anyway, I think the accent should be taken off. Nazroon 16:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


In response to questioning on my user talk page.

After seeing somebody else start to change to the accented version, as a simple change for a beginner I decided to standardise the name across the English pages. Main article is entitled Carlos Tévez. Carlos Tevez redirected there. In various articles it was either written with the accent or without, and in some articles it was written both ways throughout the text.

Searching Google Argentina news.

Tévez - http://news.google.com.ar/news?hl=es&cr=countryAR&tab=wn&ie=UTF-8&q=t%C3%A9vez&btnG=Buscar+en+Noticias 1,560 results

Tevez - http://news.google.com.ar/news?hl=es&cr=countryAR&tab=wn&ie=UTF-8&q=tevez&btnG=Buscar+en+Noticias 1,270 results

You have to bare in mind also that many of the Tevez's without the accent could be deemed as search resutls even though they only appear in a URL address. i.e. an article spelling it as Tévez could be entitled tevez.html

Wikipedia ES - http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Tevez = Tévez. But then look at the sidebar where it is written Tevez. Seems in Spanish language Wikipedia this problem also exists!

Look at his profile on the FIFA World Cup 2006 site, first in English: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/player/182373_TEVEZ_Carlos.html You'll see his name spelled as 11 TEVEZ Carlos as the capitalised surname (the shirt name), and in the profile text below it states "Buenos Aires native Carlos 'Carlitos' Tevez"

However... on the Spanish version of the same page: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/es/w/player/182373_TEVEZ_Carlos.html You'll see "11 TEVEZ Carlos" same as the English page, but then below in the profile: "Como favorito de la afición de Boca Juniors, Carlitos Tévez se metió...."

You're right his official website uses the name Tevez but that does not imply it to be correct as it could just be lazy typist or somebody else basing the name on incorrect research. Very often when capitalised for appearance on the back of a team shirt accents will be missing from names, which indeed probably filters down to the official squad list, the referees match report and of course the TV graphics and thus the news reports.

In my own experience, living in Argentina and somewhat understanding of Spanish, when I hear the name often on TV the pronunciation is indeed like the Té sound rather than the Te sound.

Also check out Hernán Crespo, and see how even in BBC articles it is written as Hernan.

I think we can both agree it needs standardising across all articles to be written one way or the other, not both.--Jimmyem 23:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

thanks for your response. I just wanted to make sure we were standarizing it the right way! Claphands 06:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

When Tevez started playing pro football in Argentina, journalists used to sometimes right his name with an accent, as grammar indicates. But once he was asked in an interview whether or not it has an accent and he said it didn't. Since then all Argentine papers and magazines - as a norm - right it without an accent, because that is how it is spelt in his birth certificate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.41.47.78 (talk) 11:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

As many Spanish surnames (Pérez, Gómez, López, Fernández, Sánchez) Tévez has the stress on the penultimate syllable, and ending in 'z', it should have the accent. However, in Argentina, surnames are usually spelt on official documents in capitals: PEREZ, GOMEZ, LOPEZ, TEVEZ, without the accents. That's why many people (mainly kids and young persons) believe his or her surname has no accents and spell it that way. But they are wrong. My ID says SANCHEZ and I used to commit this sin myself... until I was 18 years old. Tévez is still wrong. Christian Sánchez. --Chvsanchez (talk) 05:53, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

179.218.155.197 (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2014 (UTC) So, Tevez himself has responded to this repeatedly because his surname breaks with all Spanish language rules and he has said that it's without an accent, as clarified in this 2002 interview with Clarin's chief sports editor http://edant.clarin.com/diario/2002/08/15/d-00615.htm There is no sound difference though.

Full Name[edit]

It appeared here in Brazil an interview with him and he told that his full name is Carlos Alberto Martínez. I don't know why every time I correct it, someone go and put it wrong...

Perhaps because you failed to give any sources on the subject. That is not his full name, but his former name. Anyway, I will rephrase the hole thing. Mariano(t/c) 10:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Added[edit]

Added some info for the main article, Carlos Tévez didn't he score by putting the ball through Van de sars legs in there 1 nil win against man united ?--McNoddy 15:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Goal celebration vs West Ham[edit]

McNoddy, I'm wondering why you keep inserting "(which he celebrated by taking off his top, running into the stands and been congratulated by the Hammers supporters resulting in a yellow card)" into the text. I've explained on your user talk page and in the edit summary why it really doesn't belong, and the closest you've come to explaining it are "who seen the match" and "Change is gooood", neither of which is policy as far as I'm aware.

The free kick agains Tottenham was a milestone goal so that certainly belongs there. But the celebration is simply a minor footnote - it's hardly the first time a player has celebrated a big goal by going into the stands and/or taking off his shirt. It's merely interesting, not notable. --Ytny (talk) 12:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Players these days aren't even aloud to go near the fans, when they score these days, taking off your top results in an automatic yellow card, running into the stands is done very rarely (do you watch football? ever noticed that) and this might of resulted in two yellow cards getting him sent off for these offences but he didn't. It shows how much it meant to him. The celebration was unique, do what you want but I think it should be added. --McNoddy 15:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC) P.S you haven't explained nothing, what you've done is copy and pasted a temple and added the relative words I took one look at it and want 'spam'. The first goal you score in the premiership is note worthy, if you celebrate it like that, it deserves a mention.
I left a template message because it explains the policy clearly and concisely, but I did add a specific message at the end. I wish you had read that. And you also ignored the edit summary I left the second time. It would've been good form to at least provide a good reason in the edit summary, if not in the talk. But thank you for responding to me here.
Now, I never said that celebrations like that weren't rare, just that it's hardly not the first or the last of its kind. But that's besides the point. Inserting your own interpretation on the importance of the celebration amounts to WP:POV and WP:OR. If the celebration really was notable, then you could (and should be able to) quote a reliable, independent source saying as much. --Ytny (talk) 19:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
While you don't see it every game, it is not rare at all. Players aren't "allowed" to remove their shirt or go into the fans, but referees have to deal with removed shirts and security guards have to deal with players running to the fans semiregularly. It happens enough to be considered commonplace, especially so with players with something to prove (those scoring for the first time(s), those that score seldomly, etc.). - Slow Graffiti 07:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

West Ham signing legality?[edit]

I keep reading things saying that the Tevez signing was illegal. For example http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2078976,00.html starts

Representatives from Sheffield United, Wigan, Fulham and Charlton will meet again today to consider their legal challenge to the decision not to dock West Ham points over Tevez's illegal registration...

Can someone who understands these things put a little more on the matter into the article?--Nickpheas 16:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Relax. He was always eligible to play for West Ham. Sheffield Utd don't think the commission which fined West Ham followed the correct procedure and are having another commission to look at this. It is between them and them Premier League. It does not include, Tevez, West Ham OR have the power to change the original penalty.--Egghead06 17:48, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Roman Ibrahimovic is the owner of the Corinthians sponsers. He told Corinthians to sell Tevez (and Maschareno) to West Ham so Chelsea could buy him for cheaper. There.82.13.73.139 19:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like the usual nonsense that comes out of Grimsby! ;-) --Malcolmxl5 20:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Tévez on a possible move to Internazionale[edit]

The article on Wikipedia says that Tévez would fancy a move to the Italian side. However, that is not what he says to Sky Sports. He says that he is aware that there is interest in him and that it would be nice to play in Italy. He is holding his possibilities open, he does not say that a move to Inter is more likelier or favourable than a move to another club.


Here is what the article from Sky Sports says:

The Argentine striker, currently preparing for the Copa America in Venezuela, says he knows the Italian champions are targeting him.

A number of the top Premier League clubs have been linked with the West Ham frontman but, with international team-mates including Hernan Crespo, Julio Cruz and Walter Samuel already plying their trade at the San Siro, it seems Serie A may now be his favoured destination.

"I know Inter are interested in me," said Tevez.

"It would be nice to play in Italy, especially in a team that has so many Argentinians.

"There will be some meetings, some discussions, but I really don't know anything official yet."


I suggest to remove that part, but to keep the part where Massimo Moratti reveals his interest.

I suggest anyone who enters anything on Wikipedia based on transfer speculation created to sell newspapers is typing for the sake of it. Tevez is a West Ham player until he isn't.......--Egghead06 05:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Arsenal[edit]

There have been a spate of edits referring to Arsenal today, which are premature to say the least. Most have been reverted but User:82.11.193.193 persists in writing that: "...in recent interviews has said that he would like to stay in England, with Arsenal as the favourites to sign the Argentinean forward." Rather than engage in edit wars, I have ask him to provide a source [1]. Please delete it the statement about Arsenal after a reasonable time if no source is forthcoming. --Malcolmxl5 22:00, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Manchester United[edit]

Small edit to show breaking news of a possible transfer to Manchester United. Daily Mail are saying it is a done-deal; other sources vary. Suggest keeping the page locked until more concrete details emerge to prevent rumours making their way onto the page. Spikeh 15:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Can we just change his team to Man U already? It's only a matter of time —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.24.158 (talkcontribs) 07:12, 6 July 2007
That isn't how Wikipedia works though. Anyway given todays revelations that the Premier League expect any transfer deal to be done with West Ham rather than MSI, this deal is far from being a certainty. According to reports, Man Utd were to loan Tevez from MSI for only £6 million. Now they are being forced to buy him off West Ham, who if they try to sell him on the cheap and forward the money to MSI, may be in danger of relegation. Sheffield Utd's high court date has been set for July 13, which may also have a bearing on all of this. Overall then, far from certain... aLii 07:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Not really, the Premier League were just mouthing off. They won't do anything. An announcement is expected this afternoon as he's currently undergoing a medical in Venezuela. Still, it's done done yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.243.52 (talkcontribs) 15:12, 6 July 2007

Carlos tevez has been loaned to Manchester United for two years, with them having the option at the end of those 2 years, to sign him for a further three years. This way they don't need to pay a huge transfer fee straight off, something that was difficult to manage in the first place with so much money having already been spent. His loan deal has been struck at close to 4 million pounds, very small considering a player of his talent. So Manchester United have acted really smartly. The deal is DONE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankitsood87 (talkcontribs) 15:21, 6 July 2007
Tevez has just completed a medical at Argentina's base for the Copa America so the loan deal is complete. It is a 2 year loan deal with an option to add another year or purchase the player at that stage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeMistro (talkcontribs) 15:46, 6 July 2007
Is the deal done???? http://www.whufc.com/articles/article.php?page_id=9272 --Egghead06 17:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
hmm, interesting! As the link didn't work for me I'll quote the statement here:
The following is an official statement from West Ham United Chairman Eggert Magnusson...
"Carlos Tevez is a registered West Ham United player, contracted to the Club until June 2010.
"There is no agreement with West Ham United for Carlos Tevez to leave the Club and we expect him to return in time for next season's preparations.
"No decision on his future can be reached without the agreement of West Ham United." aLii 19:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Can anybody explain to me the difference between the Tevez to Man Utd and Mascherano to Liverpool deals, in that the former has provoked much more controversy than the latter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.90.209 (talkcontribs) 18:12, 6 July 2007

Yes, Mascherano was transfered before the case against West Ham was brought, whereas Tevez wasn't. He played for them after they declared the MSI-West Ham contract illegal, so if it was found that the hammers didn't actually tear up their contract with MSI, they could be in shit. aLii 19:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
In shit is a technical term. :-) Small edit for reasons of brevity.Spikeh 01:31, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Second thoughts, no it's not - see below.Spikeh 01:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
West Ham were never required to tear up their contract with Tevez/MSI. They were required to remove the offending clauses which related to 3rd party influence. Other than that Tevez is still a West Ham player on the contract signed with West Ham in August 2006 which runs until 2010. People should remember that Kia Joorabchian is a football agent and football agents like to stir and maximize their income!--Egghead06 06:49, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The decision[2] of the recent arbitral panel in the Sheffield Utd vs. Premier League dispute, states that the Premier League required West Ham to either satisfactorily modify the third party agreement or to terminate the agreement (section 45, pp 21-22). West Ham chose to terminate the agreement (section 46, pp 22-23). I take that to mean that the entire third party agreement was scrapped and not that the offending clause(s) were removed and the agreement otherwise remains. --Malcolmxl5 12:20, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Selling Tevez to Manchester United without MSI's permission isn't against the league's rules, and thus West Ham couldn't be relegated for doing so. However, it's MSI that want Tevez sold so that they can be compensated for their investment, and this "compensation" could, in the league's eyes, amount to proof that a third-party agreement still exists. Which is the central pillar in West Ham's argument that Tevez was legitimately allowed to play the end of last season and that they shouldn't be relegated. It's therefore FAR from a done deal. BeL1EveR 12:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

FIFA has said that they are willing to step in to help Manchester United complete the transfer if needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.118.113.246 (talkcontribs) 18:57, 11 July 2007

Well the latest Sky Sports News "scoop" is that Joorabchian is going to "give evidence" to Sheffield Utd that "could get West Ham relegated." Someone's gonna end up losing big. aLii 19:05, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Two bits of news tonight. Kia has made a statement reported fairly widely, saying, "On Tuesday Carlos Tevez will fly to Britain for a medical at Old Trafford as part of the process of his transfer to Manchester United. It is our understanding that all parties involved in the transfer are now satisfied the administrative issues will be settled in the next few days. We will not be adding further to this statement at this time." See here[3]. The other news is that the Brazilian press are (apparently) reporting that Kia Joorabchian and Boris Berezovski are wanted for money laundering in connection with Corinthians[4], [5], [6] and [7]. All in (I think) Portuguese, I'm afraid. Crazy! --Malcolmxl5 22:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Now in The Times.[8]. --Malcolmxl5 22:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Fergie has just said (17 July, pm) that Tevez will arrive on Wednesday. I don't know whether he was just talking about a medical, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.247.10 (talkcontribs) 13:49, July 17, 2007

OK. Let's see what happens tomorrow, it should become clearer. --Malcolmxl5 13:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Something's unclear: the first para of the Man U section says "United" lost in a game between West Ham United and Manchester United. Flare68 (talk) 19:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Transfer Speculation & Future[edit]

Decided it was probably time we move the speculation to a new section. It has been growing in size and detracting from the West Ham section that it was in previously. It adds nothing to the West Ham section beyond a distraction. Makes things succinct IMO. Thoughts?Spikeh 01:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Also rewrote it to condense the speculation and cut out a lot of crap. Less prosaic and more informative now. Spikeh 01:57, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Nice edit. aLii 06:59, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

The revision "Tevez Pleads Ignorance" sounds to me like he may just be trying to get the media off his back. It has been far too widely reported for him not to be in discussions with United - I'm going to reword it. There are new reports today that he's talking to the papers as well - http://www.itv-football.co.uk/Story/0,14272,6107_2481754,00.html - so this seems a little soon to be dismissing the transfer Spikeh 11:19, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

What a crap article[edit]

I agree someone needs to sort this page out its a complete shambles. This is where Wiki becomes stupid and lets itself down - who wants to know of the minute details of his possible transfer? This should be one line in the article: 'In the summer of 2007 it has been widely reported that Tevez is likely to be transferred to Manchester United'. The rest of the article should be about the player and the boring news story being churned out by the British press - SOMEBODY SORT IT OUT IT - it's a joke. There Robdav69 09:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

It is getting a little out of hand. I'll pay it some attention tomorrow and reduce the volume of information to a bare minimum. Spikeh 01:19, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Mercenary[edit]

Should it be made clear that Tevez like most of the foreign palyers in the premiership simply will cling to the club that offers the most money. Similar to players such as Anelka and Louis Saha —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkpdisgettingwellpretentious (talkcontribs) 15:22, July 23, 2007

no, it should not, for a number of reasons. foremost among them is that west ham are likely to find themselves in a similar situation next year and have lost a number of players because of it. secondly, tevez has been in the league for only one season. thirdly, money doesn't really have much to do with it - anelka is the only player you can support your argument with; saha spent a long time at fulham and has been loyal to manchester united since then. Spikeh 01:18, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Free Agent?[edit]

The first paragraph states that he is currently a free agent, I think this gives the wrong impression as it is clear that he belongs to MSI, and will shortly officially transfer to Manchester United. Bathory 13:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Only a football club can hold a player's registration so it's correct. Whatever arrangement Tevez has with MSI is irrelevant here. --Malcolmxl5 22:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Transfer saga and Manchester United[edit]

I have tried to trim down the last paragraph of the transfer saga and the first of the Manchester United section to remove unsourced statements, add some references and removed the blow-by-blow feel to that part. It is suppose to be an encycolpedic article and not a news report. A reminder to newcomers, do say where the information came from, it needs to be verifiable, and remember this is an encyclopedic article not a news report. --Malcolmxl5 21:01, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

loan[edit]

i'm not sure of the technicalities of Tevez's relationships with Manchester United and West Ham UNited. However, if it says "loan" beside Man Utd then it should say "loan" beside West Ham too. Am I not correct? Codu (t)(c) •  00:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

The deal MSI had with West Ham was never fully explained, so to put "loan" next to West Ham would be speculation. However, it should be put next to Manchester United as that is the deal that has been put in place between Manchester United and MSI. - PeeJay 17:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

4 goals, 11 matches not 2 goals in 10[edit]

n|m —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.61.192 (talk) 21:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Take Off the Accent!!!![edit]

I wrote before (In #Tévez Vs. Tevez) that I thought that it should be Tevez, without the accentuation mark. And I wrote my reasons for it. Now I have two articles by the two most importants journals in Argentina, where they touch the subject. They're quite old, by the way.

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2002/08/15/d-00615.htm (Clarín) http://www.lanacion.com.ar/archivo/Nota.asp?nota_id=741931 (La Nación)

I will translate for you a couple of pertinent paragraphs:

"Carlos Alberto Tevez (sin acento) nació..." "Carlos Alberto Tevez (without the accent) was born..." Clarín

"en general se respetan las grafías usadas por sus dueños, que suelen ser las que figuran en sus documentos. Esto no significa que esas formas no deban ser corregidas. Por ejemplo, Tévez , que sí es un patronímico español, debe escribirse con tilde."

"generally the graphic forms used by their owners [in their surnames] are respected, which are usually the ones in their documents. That does not mean that those forms should not be corrected. For example, Tévez, which, yes, is a spanish patronymic, should be written with a tilde." La Nación

So, the first one goes for off the accentuation mark, and the second, more interestingly, says that the journal goes for the way the owner of the name writes it. And so, the journal puts it "without" the accentuation mark. Although the writer of the article recognizes that -according to the rules of the spanish language- it should be written "with" the accent. Nevertheless, I say again that the accentuation mark should be erased. Google Search results is not a very convincing argument; it gives you quantity, whereas this specific articles I mention are only two, but authoritative. If someone is specially committed to this page, I suggest that do the changes from Tévez to Tevez. Or, if nobody objects, I can do it myself. Nazroon (talk) 15:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

i agree. if it were with the accent, surely it would be on the back of his Man Utd top, no??? and also, another MAJOR FOR for getting rid of it, his official site spells it TEVEZ. surely that tells you something?! 77.101.18.129 (talk) 20:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
So you would say that it's Vidic – not Vidić? There's not a lot of players who display the accent mark on their kit. Usually, their name is translated into English without the accent mark. crassic![talk] 22:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, look-without the accent, the pronounciation of 'Tevez' would be 'Teevez'. With the accent, the pronounciation would be 'Tayvez', which we all call him as. The accent has to be there. - Up and over for a six! (talk) 03:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't know where you learnt Spanish or where you learnt how to apply accents, but that's not the way the acute accent works. It isn't used to change the sound of the vowel as you are suggesting, from an 'ee' to an 'ay' sound. The acute accent is used to place emphasis on the vowel so that his name would be pronounced 'TEvez' with emphasis at the begginning (see here). But that doesn't even apply here as the source above shows that his name is spelt without the accent. As well as the fact that his [website] also omits the accent in all cases. The name should be changed to just Tevez, not Tévez. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RudolfSchmidt (talkcontribs) 13:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Tevez' brother at Manchester United[edit]

Tevez' younger brother Miguel was given a 2 1/2 year contract with Manchester United in October of 2007, link: http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=480433 (which quotes The Sun...). I'm thinking this warrants a mention, but where? I'm fairly new to editing and adding, so be gentle! Paalegge (talk) 09:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Red Bull New York?[edit]

Who in their rightful mind would believe that Tevez actually signed with RBNY? Somebody has been adding this bogus facts on at least 6 Wikipedias. Who could have done it? 67.119.131.122 (talk) 04:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Transfer or loan?[edit]

Urgent! Okay, we really need to figure this out once and for all. Is Tévez technically on a loan to United or the move a complete transfer? I know MSI holds his contract, but I'm not sure what effect that has on anything. Latics 23:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

When a player goes on loan from one club to another, the parent club retains the right to transfer the player's registration to another club on a permanent basis. The situation is no different with Tévez' relationship with MSI and Man Utd. MSI retain the right to sell/loan Tévez to another club, but United have the first option on him. As I understand it, that option must be exercised before the end of 2008, or else it will expire and Tévez will play for another club in 2009-10. I also understand that United will pay MSI £32 million within the next couple of months in order to purchase the permanent rights to Tévez' contract, and will sign him to a long-term contract. – PeeJay 23:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Right. I just wasn't sure of the official deal between West Ham, MSI, and United since every few weeks/months someone pops up to add (loan) to the infobox. I'll just make a note of it. :) Latics 23:51, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Guys wait a minute, if the Hammers lost that little scrap with Sheffield United, well, does that mean they'll have to sell Tevez sooner or later. I know they're appealing the Tevez case and I haven't heard anything since but if they lose the case, do they lose Tevez. I've been questioning how they signed him illegally.  MICHAEL  talk  04:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
You obviously don't understand the situation here. West Ham have nothing to do with Tevez any more. He is owned by MSI, who are currently loaning him to Manchester United. If Man Utd decide to make that deal permanent, all the money goes to MSI, not West Ham. – PeeJay 09:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Geeze, calm down will ya?!! I don't know much about the Media Sports Investments, besides how long has Tevez's contract been been owned by them?  MICHAEL  talk  00:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
MSI have owned Tevez' contract since December 2004, when he moved from Boca Juniors to Corinthians. – PeeJay 10:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I think what's confusing is that MSI is not a football club, so it's hard to say he's loaned 'from' another club. So adding (loan) to the infobox doesn't make it clear who he's on loan from, but it's definitely not from West Ham. - 134.225.24.49 (talk) 11:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

You know what's more confusing, the fact that MSI doesn't have everyones money, let's use for example, when he signed with Manchester City, why did the money go to Moscow and not MSI?  MICHAEL  talk  02:36, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Pic[edit]

That picture of Tevez in his Argentine club is really old. Anybody has a recent picture? - Up and over for a six! (talk) 03:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

This? Certainly doesn't need removing, it helps demonstrate more of his career. Mattythewhite (talk) 06:55, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Correct eight[edit]

Tevez is 168 cm (5 and 6), you can find that in a lot of sites on the web. Please don't change the eight.

The word is "height", not "eight". "Eight" is a number. – PeeJay 17:31, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
EuroSport has 1.69m and so do SkySports.
1.73m is being generous.
Aaron carass (talk) 17:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, I would certainly take the word of Sky Sports ahead of the blog site that the anon was linking to. Strangely, the book that I referenced is a Sky Sports publication, so it's strange that the two do not equate. – PeeJay 18:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry for have wrote "eight" but i'm not english.

Hat-trick[edit]

Teves scored 4 goals not a hat-trick, that called super hat-trick. --Qadsawi (talk) 10:36, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Since when? I've never heard that phrase before. Anyway, there is still some debate about whether the first goal should be given to Tevez or as a Mokoena own goal. – PeeJay 10:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
You can search it in the web and see that the 4 goals called super hat-trick. --Qadsawi (talk) 10:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Sounds like a neologism to me, and therefore it is not a term we should use on this article. – PeeJay 14:48, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't know what to say to you but you can see this in google. You must consider that I don't count google as a source for my information, but the word super hat-trick is normal for me to hear. --Qadsawi (talk) 08:44, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

What's more, he has scored more than 20 goals in Manchester United, not only 15 as we can see here... someone should fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.49.225.121 (talk) 16:46, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

No, they shouldn't. The infobox only shows stats for the league, in which Tevez has only scored 15 goals for Man Utd. – PeeJay 20:44, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

No longer a Manchester United player surely[edit]

Surely Tevez is no longer a Manchester United player. I know there was a discussion before saying only a club can hold a players registration, but now no club holds it so he is a free agent until someone either "loans" him from MSI or buys him from there. He's left Man Utd and is no longer their player.

I'm gonna change it, I think if anyone disagrees let me know.

JimmyMac82 (talk) 14:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

So long as he is still listed as a MUFC first team player, we must presume that he is still with the club. Also, he may very well be on "loan" to the club until the end of the season, which doesn't end until the 30th.  LATICS  talk  19:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Precisely. Tevez's loan contract runs until 30 June. Leave things as they are. – PeeJay 19:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Tevez is not a united player[edit]

Putting tevez as a united player is factuly incorect and i am wondering why me putting him as 'unattached' was changed because it is true, well sort of, its certainly more correct that putting as a united player because he is not —Preceding unsigned comment added by P34c0ck1991 (talkcontribs) 20:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Look at the section above.  LATICS  talk  21:09, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I note that these two reliable sources say he will remain with the club until June 30. As such, he can still be described as a Manchester United player and it cannot be said that he will stop playing for Man Utd in 2009 until it has been confirmed he won't renew his contract which I understand hasn't been done yet. I will therefore reinstate semi protection for a futher period of time to prevent the continued addition of unsourced content and speculation from a variety of anonymous users. Adambro (talk) 16:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Jorobichian on a BBC audio clip[edit]

Jorobichian states that he will definately remain in the Premiership and that Liverpool are not are likely destination, and also mentions Chelsea and Man City as leading clubs. Shouldn't this be included and the 'he will leave Man United' sentence?--Medic463 (talk) 18:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

M62[edit]

The article is quoted as saying: "Tévez's advisors informed the club that he no longer wished to play for Manchester United. Reports also emerged that Tévez had ruled out signing for Liverpool, given the implications of a Manchester United player moving down the M62". I'm not English, and as such haven't the faintest idea where the M62 is. Surely this should be made more universally understandable, rather than being written from an Anglocentric view point?

You are probably right, but before we all jump in and start trying to re-write the article, why not click on the "M62" link? – PeeJay 08:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm English, and have driven the M62 before. I get the reference and understand it, but I don't think it should be in this article. It's not difficult to mention the clubs' rivalry without this reference. --86.136.20.242 (talk) 22:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Tevez affair article[edit]

Was there ever a separate Carlos Tevez affair article? I can find no trace of a deletion or merge if there was, but I'm convinced I've seen one somewhere on wikipedia before. MickMacNee (talk) 17:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Never heard of such an article. I think you may be misremembering. – PeeJay 18:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Tevez' goals in the national team[edit]

Switzerland-Argentina, 2. June 2007 in Basel was a draw: 1:1. Tevez marked the first goal. Primusinterparem (talk) 15:11, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

£47 million, a British transfer record.[edit]

Under Manchester City, "On 12 September, it was revealed that the exact cost of the transfer was £47 million, a British transfer record." http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/105/main/2009/09/12/1496716/kia-joorabchian-quashes-claims-carlos-tevez-cost-manchester-city-

This was denied by Kia Joorabchian. Sparepillow (talk) 04:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Source here, can someone remove this now?: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/mancity/6178668/Manchester-City-did-not-pay-47-million-for-Carlos-Tevez-says-Kia-Joorabchian.html devineman (talk) 01:52, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Tevez was £25.5M NOT £47M!! City comfirmed £25.5M just cause GOAL.COM the worst rumour site on the internet make's up numbers(which was also denied by Kia) you think it's true! Come on City's recored signing is Robinho for 32.5m the Club would not make up how much they paid for a player. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchem83 (talkcontribs) 14:08, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

4 league games for Man City, not 2[edit]

Tevez has played in 4 of City's 5 league games this season - not 2

HEIGHT[edit]

1.73m is absolutely wrong! Tevez is 1.68m tall (5 ft 6 in). You can see here (official Premier League website), here (Soccerbase.com) and here (BBC). --Exorcist Z (talk) 18:13, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Nope, Carlos Tevez is 173 (five feet and eight inches) as it is reported in the OFFICIAL site of Manchester City and in the OFFICIAL site of FIFA world cup 2010. http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Players/Strikers/Carlos-Tevez http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/southafrica2010/players/player=182373/index.html

Many sites report 173 as correct height, as well as the other editions of wikipedia. Just a few sites have older and wrong stats. For any player on wikipedia the official site of the player' s squad is the one cited for the height. Here we also have the official site of FIFA world cup 2010 and many others. http://it.eurosport.yahoo.com/calcio/carlos-tevez.html http://mondiali2010.excite.it/argentina-N34955.html http://soccerplayertracker.blogspot.com/2011/02/carlos-tevez-bio.html And I can link many others....so please don' t start a battle of who has got more sites to cite, the official one says 5'8 and that's it. Newadventures (talk) 01:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Here it shows his height as 5ft 6½in [9] - I am more inclined to believe that. Here he is with Messi [10] (5ft 7in)- you can see at 6:06 that Messi even looks taller than Tevez. 99.171.230.138 (talk) 20:55, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Tevez is now Manchester City captain[edit]

Tevez is now the captain of City, was given the armband v Spurs, former captain Kolo Toure also played meaning Tevez is 100% new club captain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.53.78 (talk) 15:42, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Picture in Honours section[edit]

"Tévez won numerous trophies while playing for Manchester United" and a picture. He has also won numerous trophies elesewhere but we don't have a picture or quote stating this. Thw picture is unecessary and should be removed or should be in Manchester United section of his Club Career bio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.138.26.173 (talk) 09:53, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't see why. The picture is appropriate to the Honours section, isn't it? You'd be hard pressed to find a single picture that is representative of all the honours he has won at each of his clubs... – PeeJay 07:58, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Tevez's Statistics[edit]

I think it's necessary to include Tevez's statistics in "Copa Libertadores" and "Copa Sudamericana" with Boca Juniors and Corinthians, plus his game against AC Milan with Boca in 2004. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.55.122.203 (talk) 07:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 74.233.198.196, 7 February 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} On 20 December 2010 Tevez withdrew his transfer request and expressed his 'absolute commitment' to Manchester City following clear-the-air talks.[1] On Boxing Day 2010 Tevez scored twice as City won 3-1 away at Newcastle United.[2] Tevez scored a first-half hat-trick against West Bromwich Albion F.C. on his 27th birthday, 5 February 2011, converting two penalties and a shot set up by David Silva. It was his 3rd hat-trick for Manchester City. [3]

74.233.198.196 (talk) 14:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Already done It looks like someone already took care of this; if anything was missed, please make a new request. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:34, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 121.54.2.121, 25 February 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} Hello there.


The number of goals Tevez made for Manchester City has been 50 already, not 41 that is shown in the wikipedia page.

Here is the link, as proof, from the official Manchester City FC page, commemorating his half-century accomplishment for the club: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Features/Carlos-Tevez-reaches-fifty-goals-for-City-part-1


Gracias! 121.54.2.121 (talk) 14:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Not done:The stats shown on the infobox are as stated "domestic league only", so even thou he has scored 50 goals only 41 of those were in the Premier League. Please check out the section Career statistics and you will see that his stats are correct and up to date. Regards --Bocafan76 (talk) 14:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13704323.stm[edit]

Does anybody know when this interview is from? I know BBC's page is from 8th June, but is that a recently found interview or not? Stephen MUFC (talk) 21:12, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Josh2211, 28 June 2011[edit]

so i can change his goals and news through out the year i can do it the minute he finishes matches or he moves to a different club

Josh2211 (talk) 20:43, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Not done: We would be happy to help you on this but we ask that you either: please be more specific about what you would like someone else to change, or you should be able to edit the article yourself in about 2 days when you become auto-confirmed. Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:23, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Corinthians record.[edit]

his goals and games record is wrong. it is actually 25 goals in 38 games. (http://guardian.touch-line.com/StatsCentre.asp?Lang=0&CTID=11&CPID=4&pStr=Player&PLID=65144&TEID=229) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.216.121 (talk) 10:35, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

"affair"[edit]

In the lead section it says "His career has been dogged by a long-standing affair with Media Sports Investments". This sounds weird; "an affair with..." almost always means a romantic affair. What sort of "affair" is this? Does it mean something like "dispute"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.108.144 (talk) 17:40, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't get Sheffield's claim[edit]

I think the connection between Sheffield's claim to West Ham and whatever that has to do with Tevez should be spelled out in so many words, because from what there is, I just don't get it. What's more, it doesnt't even become clear from the Wiki on Sheffield United.--Cancun771 (talk) 06:43, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 January 2012[edit]

Tevez has now signed with AC Milan

79.106.109.119 (talk) 22:13, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Indispensable?[edit]

'His energy and goal scoring rate has since made him an indispensable player for the club in the eyes of fellow players and media alike.'

He can hardly be called 'indispensable' when he has, effectively, been dispensed with. I suggest changing the sentence (at the end of the first paragraph) to read: 'his energy and goal scoring rate soon made him an indispensable player for the club in the eyes of fellow players and media alike'. This way, the appraisal is not (necessarily) continuous. Alternatively, the sentiment ('he did good') could be otherwise worded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.207.196.201 (talk) 22:59, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

correction[edit]

He actually playey 31 games last year during the 2010-11 season.

Birthplace[edit]

Hello! I've just made a small correction about Tévez's birhplace. The page says "Ciudadela, Buenos Aires" and the link goes to Buenos Aires city, the capital of Argentina. However, Ciudadela is outside the city limits, it is a part of the neighboring Buenos Aires Province. RNL89 (talk) 22:45, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

National team statistics[edit]

Please update statistics for the national team, 62 games and 13 goals. 187.87.204.195 (talk) 03:02, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

City statistics[edit]

Please update: not 4 goals in 9 matches for Premier League, but 6 goals in 12. 1 appearence in League Cup (no goals). 3 matchs for UEFA CL (no goals). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.55.123.73 (talk) 05:47, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Boca statistics[edit]

That info is wrong, Tevez played 110 matches and scored 38 goals in Boca. (http://historiadeboca.com.ar/jugadores/carlos-alberto-tevez/805/1905/2013/6.html) in national and international matches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.18.22.95 (talk) 05:35, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the source. By the way, if you are referring to the stats in the infobox at the top of the page, those are not wrong because the infobox contains only league stats. I will, however, change the stats in the table lower down the page. – PeeJay 12:35, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Caddy work[edit]

Andreas Romero did not finish last in The Open. Sure he finished 83rd but he made the cut and played better than half the field and not "extremely badly" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.208.149.175 (talk) 15:44, 8 March 2013 (UTC)


Please update the total number of goals. Correct is 196. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.99.131.218 (talk) 11:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Total goals for clubs[edit]

The total is incorrect. It should be 196. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.99.131.218 (talk) 12:43, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

You're right... yet i can't verify South American continental figures with any source.--SojerPL (talk) 12:33, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

'Confirmed' move[edit]

Much of thehe final paragraph in the club career section should be removed. The article listed as a source has no direct quotes and is just journalistic speculation. It doesn't even say who or what confirmed this supposed clear out of 6 players! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzonked (talkcontribs) 13:55, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Carlitos vs. Carlito[edit]

Can anyone explain me why Tévez is known as Carlitos and not Carlito?!? I don't get it. I mean, the diminutive of Carlos is Carlito in Spanish, not Carlitos! Why you need to add that s? I understand the pun about Carlito's Way, okay, but that's still Carlito in the movie (I mean, Pacino's character), the s just stands for the genitive case.... I'm not even English but that is so obvious!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.40.33.54 (talk) 01:54, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Does it really matter? That is the nickname by which he is known. Plus, how do you know that "Carlitos" isn't an Argentine Spanish variant of Carlito? – PeeJay 02:12, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
I know it's just a curiosity, it's not that important, but it's still stuck in my mind after all the times I've heard journalists calling him Carlitos lately (I'm from Italy so you can understand why they mention him so much on Italian tv's these days....). I was just wondering why they started calling him Carlitos instead of Carlito, which would be the regular diminutive, maybe you guys know better in the U.K. since Tévez played there for many years. By the way, I don't really think Carlitos is an Argentine Spanish variant of Carlito, first because adding an s makes no sense (what is that? a plural form, like it was two or more Carlitos??) and then Argentines even tend to drop the s sound when they speak (I know that very well about Argentine-Spanish!), they'd unlikely add a random s that they wouldn't even pronounce.... Anyway yes, it's just a curiosity, does anyone have an answer please? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.40.33.54 (talk) 01:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Well, let me correct myself, I just made a quick search around the web and found out that Carlitos is indeed a variant of Carlito in Spanish and Portuguese! I'm very surprised about that cause I really didn't think so (as I tried to explain in my previous comment), I now realize I have to get a little more information before coming up with random comments.... well in short it's my bad, I'm sorry. Still thank you for the answer, I know something new now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.40.33.54 (talk) 01:47, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Senior career[edit]

Juventus 2013- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barnava Chatterjee (talkcontribs) 16:32, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

New pic requested[edit]

Can you put a recent picture of Tevez playing for Juventus, please? I think it needs to get updated.--Teno85 (talk) 03:23, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. It does not seem that this player uses the accent when writing his own name per the cited interview. These days Wikipedia would have no problem using an accented name for him if reliable sources usually spell him that way. But, as pointed out below, the sources are mixed. As argued by User:Cuchullain, the fact he doesn't use the accent himself should be persuasive. One editor argued that Tevez is a variant of Estévez but no source was provided. A Spanish-language web publication actually issued a correction to a previous post to remove the accent from his name. EdJohnston (talk) 21:49, 4 February 2014 (UTC)



Carlos TévezCarlos Tevez – The interview linked above (see here) is pretty clear about there being no accent on Tevez's name. To be honest, I have no idea where the accent came from in the first place. It could be put down to over-anglicisation by the sources, but a quick Google search for "Carlos Tevez" gives only three results that use the accent out of the first 50 hits. – PeeJay 22:23, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. – PeeJay 22:33, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment – Interesting, the Telegraph uses the version with the accent, as does NFT, however others including the Daily Mail and Sky Sports actually haven't, although the reflist shows an accent (perhaps an example of hypercorrection). Good link PeeJay, as this is from the same source used in the article about how he got his surname, so I think it's worthy of consideration. Having said that, Spanish Wikipedia (es:Carlos Tévez) uses the accent. C679 23:25, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose - the surname, although not common, is written with the accent, same as referring to both the footballer and other Tévez. It isn't over-anglicisation, it's because the name is a variant of Estévez. I see some blog comments about why that Argentine newspaper has been omitting it, but nothing in reliable sources. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:20, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
    • When I talk about over-anglicisation, I'm referring to the majority of the sources that don't use the accent (i.e. they are over-anglicising his name by dropping the accent). I see your point, but I would be wary of any sources written in the last four or five years as they may well have been influenced by the potentially inaccurate title of this article. – PeeJay 16:48, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose. I don't think it's likely they got his name wrong on the es.wp article, and if it's how is name is really spelt, not having the glyph would be a spelling error. -- Ohc ¡digame! 02:28, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Before dismissing this out of hand, wouldn't it be a good idea to ask the guys at the Spanish Wikipedia why they use the accented version? Surely they have a reliable source that supports that spelling? – PeeJay 02:57, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. I've found several Spanish-language articles that specifically say it's spelled without the accent. In addition to PeeJay's Clarion article there's this, saying the same, and the editors of this article even issued a correction after writing it a "Tévez", explaining that it's "'Tevez', sin acento". I've seen none specifically saying the accent should be used. In addition, as PeeJay says, in English sources his name is much more commonly written without the accent than with it. We can't make decisions based on how other people spell their name or what other language Wikipedias do; the Spanish article is inconsistent throughout anyway.--Cúchullain t/c 15:28, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Support per Cuchullain. While I'm strongly in favor of native diacritics for biographies, even though they're frequently omitted by English-language sources, it seems fairly clear here that Tevez's actual name doesn't include the diacritic, even if perhaps it should due to its derivation from Estévez. If the man himself doesn't use this mark, neither should we. It's perhaps worth a footnote of explanation in the article. --BDD (talk) 23:09, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Dismiss for comity, with suggestion to bring it up on es wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.175.135 (talk) 23:39, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Other Wikipedias' titles don't dictate ours, nor do ours dictate theirs. If we move, they might want to as well, but we're not going to let them choose our title. I don't mean to sound territorial or anything; that's just how it's done. --BDD (talk) 22:50, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment I've added a note on the spelling clarifying that the name often appears as "Tévez" but that he spells it "Tevez", with the sources. That should settle the issue.--Cúchullain t/c 22:16, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment, the reason why the accent is added is an hypercorrection. Spanish accent rules are quite simple: words that end in N, S or vowel and their stress is in the last syllable, they have a visible accent (e.g. Corazón). Words that don't finish in N, S or vowel and their stress is in the penultimate syllable have a visible accent (e.g. Ángel). Tevez has a syllable that usually is strong in Spanish ("Te"), so it is believed that as "Te" is strong the sound is "TEvez", when in fact it should be "teVEZ". © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 04:30, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Support; seems clear that he pronounces it tevez, unless someone can come up with a source against that. Red Slash 03:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose Conflicting sources over usage of the accent. Plenty of sources use his name with the accent and plenty use it without the accent as well. Also, I'm opposed to the Anglicisation of foreign names for simplicity purposes. And I think it says a lot that Spanish Wikipedia uses the accent, not that this is by any means the main focus of my argument. IJA (talk) 23:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
We now have sources specifically commenting on the accent and indicating it is not part of his name. Its appearance in other sources and the Spanish Wikipedia is a mistake that doesn't need to be repeated here. The article text has already been updated; the title is now out of line with its own article.--Cúchullain t/c 00:12, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
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Mistake[edit]

is an Argentine It should be spelled Argentina. PeacefulJarl379 (talk) 23:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done .. It's grammatically correct. JMHamo (talk) 23:35, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Very muddled Introduction[edit]

Says he is a player who currently plays for Juventus, lists previous clubs. Then randomly jumps to telling us about his move to MAnchester City

- Then lists a 2011 transfer request and Sergio Aguero coming in as a replacement. Doesn't specify at all when he actually left Manchester City (it wasn't 2011 and by the time he left Aguero had been there 2 years)

- Then jumps back to the Media Sports Investment case.

I'm no expert in Carlos Tevez so do not feel that I could do an introduction justice. But it really should be better than this.

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  1. ^ http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11679_6605191,00.html
  2. ^ "Newcastle 1-3 Man City". BBC News. 26 December 2010. 
  3. ^ http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/05/manchester-city-west-bromwich-albion-premier-league