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Definition[edit]

This page is not just a definition but also a discussion of the Spanish caste system in Latin America. Maybe another article is needed titled something like "Spanish caste system in Latin America'" but to be simplified to a Wiktionary entry seems like a bad idea.

--Moheroy 22:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Needs a fuller development of the paintings section[edit]

There should be a section discussing the paintings, which were a major art field in their day. It might even be worthy of its own article at some point.

Here are two articles that mention the paintings:

Lawikitejana 20:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I just saw some of the paintings in the Tesoros exhibit in Philadelphia. I was hoping this page would explain it better. But maybe I should edit it myself? *g* Some of the paintings suggested that "whiter" women were marrying "less white" men, which seemed unlikely, but did this happen?

The paintings were a recolection of all posible combinations, even if they were not common. In practice, unlike spain, where blood certificates existed, in México the catholic priest decided the caste of the children at the baptism ceremony. With a some monetary compensation, the rpiest cold assign a better caste to the children. As a result, eventually most of the populations became "mestizo" or "criollo".
At the same time, this gave the catholich church much power and wealth, and corruption. I want to put this themes in the article, but i need to look for good references first... Nanahuatzin 16:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Mexican Indian on Indian[edit]

Since this was throughout Spanish America, don't you think we should like to something beyond Mexican Indian?

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Your contributions were reverted. Please do not simply replace an entire article with your own version; work in your content where relevant. --Geniac 20:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Show combinations[edit]

I think somone should add examples of mixing. I still have no idea what a mestiza and a criollo make. Will there child be a castizo(a) or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.67.79 (talk) 00:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

yes, it would result in a person classified a Castizo or less than a quarter (1/4 or 0.25%) Amerindian, but can be treated like a "white" Caucasian/European... and somehow can inherit some Amerindian ethnoracial features. Other terms for various "more Criollo/less Indio" mestizos in the casta - Suco, Montubio and Tipio del Caste means lesser Amerindian blood and most likely classified a white or Spanish person. Except for terms Mestizo, Castizo or Cholo (simpler degrees of designating persons of certain Euro-Amerindian admixture), the terminology is outdated and not common in today's Latin American countries. + 71.102.11.193 (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Insulares and Mestizaje[edit]

This article needs to mention the terms "insulares" and "mestizajes" and their relations and ranks in the Spanish caste system. XXXpinoy777 (talk) 23:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Are you referring to people from the Philippines, XXXpinoy777? Previous editors seem to feel that this article should only deal with Spanish America. (See, March 19, 2010 edit.) I disagree; Spanish colonial culture did not exist in a vacuum and was not cut off from either the Peninsula or the Pacific possessions—quite the contrary, the Manila galleons ensured the opposite. If you have a source, use it to create a sentence or two and be sure to cite the source!TriniMuñoz (talk) 12:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Peninsular[edit]

The Peninsular was an important group, but the link redirect was to 'peninsula' so I removed it. Also, a proper page doesn't exist.

Cor Ferrum (talk) 22:13, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

The proper Wikilink exists in the bulleted section about two paragraphs below. As people have added their little bits here and there over the last three years (often duplicating and triplicating information), this article has become overlinked, but I will leave it be for now. TriniMuñoz (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for clearing that! Cor Ferrum (talk) 00:21, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

The word CASTA has nothing to do with "character and quality" Also your refs do not imply such things[edit]

The system of castas, or genízaros, was based on the principle that the character and quality of people varied according largely to their "birth, color, race and origin of ethnic types"

What does "character and quality" have to do with the words "race,colour,birth"? The portugueses created the word Casta to sort of the slaves they owned, the portuguese owned slaves from all different races such as Indians,africans,japanese ect, they then sorted them by age of birth, the colour of a slave was more for saleability for sex slavery which the portugueseagain where famous for, hence Casta actual orginal meaning was Race,Colour,Birth... NOT CHARACTER AND QUALITY, checked your ref and nothing implys Character and Quality.remove it92.236.96.38 (talk) 16:34, 15 October 2014 (UTC)Caplock