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The photo captioned "A chairlift in Bad Hofgastein, Austria" is actually of a detachable chairlift; maybe it should be changed. --184.108.40.206 20:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- The carriers (chairs) in this picture are actually known as a "bubble chair" because they have a Plexiglas cover attached to the safety restraining bar that, when lowered by the passenger, will shield the passenger from the elements. This is a specific style which is not found on most lifts. Maybe the photo caption should be modified to reflect this, since this photo is clearly not of a generic type of carrier. You are correct however, that this is indeed a detachable chairlift. Parcanman (talk) 21:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
This article claims that chairlift normally refers specificaelly to a fixed-grip chair, but in actuality, the term chairlift is used generically for both fixed and detachable lifts. Pimlottc 21:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
The "Brittle Bar" should actually be referred to as a "Deropement Switch", as this is what it truly is, and is called in industry standard employee training manuals. The "brittle bar" is a specific style of deropement switch, but not all chairlifts use this particular style of switch. Parcanman (talk) 02:20, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- I haven't seen any sources to that effect. Do you know of any? I added that to the article based on what I could find published and also on my experience as a ski instructor for many years. —EncMstr (talk) 04:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- I've been a lift operator for the past 6 winters. At the area I work at, our newest lift (installed 1994) does not use brittle bars on the tensioning and depression sheave trains, instead it has these little metal rods that fit into a rubber sleeve and hold down a momentary button switch. When one is hit, the rod pops out of the sleeve but hangs from a short length of cord that prevents it from falling from the tower (and on to the heads of skiers passing underneath), however it can be reset by just putting the rod back in the sleeve since nothing is broken.
- Another lift we have just got a new bottom depression train made by Poma, it has spring loaded lever switches that automatically reset and also are not broken. Also, most of our lifts as well as many lifts I have seen at other areas use brittle bars for other functions aside from cable detection, such as tension carriage limit switches.
- Any training material I have ever seen refers to any switch used to detect a deropement as a "deropement switch". I am not aware of any material available online for free, but the most recent material that we have used for employee training is a book called "Learning About Lifts" by "Mountain Management Services LLC". Parcanman (talk) 03:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- It was probably the first type of switch used for that purpose and thus the term became the most widely used term, but just because it's the most widely used doesn't mean it's the proper term for an encyclopedia. You'll probably find more people that say "Kleenex" than those who say "facial tissue", but that doesn't mean that the title of the wiki article for facial tissue should say Kleenex. The point is that although the brittle bar is historically the most widely used type of deropement switch, it is not the only type in use for this purpose, and it is only a type. Check the service manuals for any chairlift, or ask any chairlift maintenance technician, brittle bar is really just a nickname. Next winter I'll try to remember to take some photos of the different types in use.Parcanman (talk) 07:15, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
This section says that both loading and unloading is supervised by an operator, however many European chairlifts do not have an operator or attendant at the unloading area, so this could be misleading. Parcanman (talk) 21:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
- I have only been to a handful of European ski areas and they all had unload operators. In the U.S. and Canada, virtually every area has an operator at the unload. The exceptions are those monitored by video at some very small areas. —EncMstr (talk) 04:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
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