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Dragonlance[edit]

No Dragonlance entries? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.15.80.10 (talkcontribs)

You can add them. Only add races from TSR / WotC sourcebooks, not Sovereign Press sourcebooks. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 01:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Possible Merge[edit]

It has been suggested that this article be merged with Races (Dungeons & Dragons).

4e race shuffle[edit]

I don't know how we should handle this in the tables. Prior to 4th edition, High Elves are the "standard" or "default" Elves, and Rock Gnomes are the "standard" or "default" Gnomes. In 4th edition, High Elves are Eladrin, Elves are Wood Elves, Gnomes are Forest Gnomes and Rock Gnomes don't seem to exist. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Heroes of Shadow races[edit]

I just wanted to point out that the Shade, Revenant, and Vryloka races were added to D&D 4e via the Heroes of Shadow book. I don't want to mess up the table, so hopefully someone will see this and add them. 68.117.139.116 (talk) 01:29, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, I'd like to point out that the Wilden from Player's Handbook III are missing for some reason. 68.117.139.116 (talk) 01:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I dunno if anyone's paying attention to this page, but I posted this comment months ago and just fixed the page. I also added the Heroes of the Feywild races, since they were announced. I hope that's acceptable, considering it's not released yet. ValravenOdinson (talk) 16:56, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

4th Edition Types?[edit]

Is this information important for this page? If it is, I can add it in (it's listed in the Monster Manuals, but not in the Player's Handbooks, so I didn't know if it was important.) If there's anybody checking up on this page, let me know because I don't mind doing it. ValravenOdinson (talk) 17:05, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good. 129.33.19.254 (talk) 17:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Now, the new question I have is... should I bother putting in the type for non-player races for 4e, or should I just focus on the playable races?ValravenOdinson (talk) 14:43, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
You could go crazy trying to include all non-player races, so just stick with the ones that have been specifically set up as playable. 129.33.19.254 (talk) 15:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. :) I know all the ones from the Player's Handbooks are listed in the Monster Manuals, but I don't know if every last playable race is (the Kalashtar come to mind at least). I'll do as many as I can.ValravenOdinson (talk) 15:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

I put in all the 4e types I could find; any unverified ones are marked with a "?". I assume that there is no room for speculation on Wikipedia, so I'm not going to try to guess the remaining types (not even the Changeling, which I was really tempted to make the same as Doppelganger). If future sources give conclusive evidence for their types, I'll add them in. ValravenOdinson (talk) 15:04, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like you've got the right idea. :) 129.33.19.254 (talk) 15:23, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Drow[edit]

Should the drow really be listed as a core race? It says that they became a core race in 4e, yet the character creation info for the drow first appeared in the first Monster Manual for 4e and then was expanded in Forgotten Realms later. They're already in the table below, as a race from other sourcebooks, and I think that's where they belong personally. Is anyone else in agreement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ValravenOdinson (talkcontribs) 15:25, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed the drow from the core race list. Nobody was paying attention to this page in weeks to give me some input, so I just removed it knowing that the drow are not a core race yet. If anybody can point me to anything showing otherwise, I'll add it back in. ValravenOdinson (talk) 16:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
I'd say you are probably correct. 129.33.19.254 (talk) 16:37, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
To me the biggest problem is that authors of this page seem to have a different concept of "core" from the authors of the actual game (but I guess that's Wikipedia for you - if dedicated Wikipedians met God, they would try teaching him how to create worlds).
To explain it better: as said by authors of 4th edition, "everything is core". Everything in 4E, that is. So Drow, among many other races in the lower table, should be listed as core - because that's what the game itself treats them as. Of course, you're free to correct the game developers what's core in their game, but that'd be a very... Wikipedia thing to do. 164.126.243.102 (talk) 12:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm a little late to the party, but yeah, I see what you're saying. Regardless, as far as sourcebooks go, Drow were only given treatment as player characters in Monster Manual 1 and Forgotten Realms. If we were to assume the former is core, that would mean things like bugbears and goblins would be core races, while the latter would assume that alternate campaign settings are core, so wouldn't Eberron and Dark Sun count too?
I've been counting "core races" as ones that appear in PHB1. If we assumed that every PHB for 4e was core, we'd have to make the table significantly larger and include a lot of minor and obscure races. If the populous reaches a consensus that every PHB race be placed in the core table, then I don't mind personally making the edit, but I vote nay on this matter, especially since we probably won't ever see the majority of said races as core in any other edition again. ValravenOdinson (talk) 14:47, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
On another note, the statement "everything is core" is awfully vague. Does "everything" include other campaign settings (as I mentioned prior)? Does it include stuff from Dragon? Does it include Essentials? Does the stuff in Monster Manual and Manual of the Planes count? If Wizards hasn't clarified this, then I don't think even they understand what's "core" anymore. ValravenOdinson (talk) 14:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Basic description.[edit]

As a non-D&D player, I came to this page to find out what is meant by "Race" in the game. The article, in its current form, doesn't actually tell me. Since the page title is not "List of Character Races in Dungeons & Dragons", it would seem useful if someone could add a line or two actually introducing and explaining the topic. Lawlore (talk) 01:05, 4 December 2013 (UTC)