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Like in nuclar phhysics - for low concentrations of ionizing mass the functions of ionization of atoms (i.e. elements being built up - hydrogen to helium Fusion; or lower grade elements; Fission) It was noted for years that ionization was simply proportional to the mass untill it was realised that a slow compound effect occured thus compounding this to a Cytical mass wherw it all converted in a split second. The logical questioned asked; what has this to do with Charge (Coulomb) density i.e. C/m, C/m^2 or C/m^3. Another question I'll ask to further clarify where are we going with this is. What is the maximum temperature? Stephen Hawkins stipulated that at the conception of the universe that its temperature was infinnity (yeh yeh); Any logical person could shoot that idea down. The thing is if you dont realy know units in terms of m mass, L Length & time. you are going to have a hard time understanding extrapulation ideas into new physics. I'll give you an example, I prior asked whats the maximum temperature & if it exist we know the lowest 0 deg K (-273.15degC) now Stephen says it is infinity - I'll show how simply he is WRONG by ussing SIMPLE logic. At absolute temperature 0 degrees C nothing moves i.e. all mass electons freze that is all particles are at Zero velocity and as the mass is heated the particles increase their oscilation / giration / vibrating / speeding such as gasses - it is logical to conclude that the particles can't go past the speed of light 3p8 m/s (3x10^8 m/s) Thus Mr Hawkins you have a flaw in your theory & the units for all temerature scales (C, F, R (Rankin) K ( Kevin)) dont show their units at all & are trully Length/Time ie say m/s (metre/second). Which brings me to another question I believe their is only one maximum that is readily reconised in physics that being the velocity of light being c (3p8 m/s. I'snt that good I,ve found another maximum (temperature) or have I as it is another form of the speed of light as temp is velocity. Just a few other units that are not qualified by proper units in terms of mass energy length time (melt) are Amp Volt Coulomb etc etc this in itself makes it hard to fully comprehend what it is. I have computed most of these gray units & have found many maximums right up to why the universe is expanding at an increace rate. Kevin SAYERS Werribe 3030 Australia. firstname.lastname@example.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 11:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)