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Charles Darwin's funeral: the 10 pallbearers![edit]

  • The Duke of Devonshire,
  • The Duke of Argyll,
  • The Earl of Derby,
  • Mr. J. Russell Lowell,
  • Mr. W. Spottiswoode,
  • Sir Joseph Hooker,
  • Mr. A. R. Wallace,
  • Professor Huxley,
  • Sir John Lubbock,
  • and the Rev. Canon Farrar.

Note: The Earl of Derby: Edward Stanley and the Rev. Canon Farrar: Frederic Farrar were both Cambridge Apostles like Erasmus 'Ras' Darwin was.

2.27.146.105 (talk) 22:56, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

And in April 1882, The Duke of Devonshire = William Cavendish, 7th Duke of Devonshire; The Duke of Argyll = George John Douglas Campbell, 8th Duke of Argyll; The Earl of Derby = Edward Henry Stanley, 15th Earl of Derby. - Nunh-huh 02:33, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

So, with links: William Cavendish, 7th Duke of Devonshire; George John Douglas Campbell, 8th Duke of Argyll; Edward Henry Stanley, 15th Earl of Derby; James Russell Lowell; William Spottiswoode; Joseph Dalton Hooker; Alfred Russel Wallace; Thomas Henry Huxley; John Lubbock, 1st Baron Avebury; Frederic Farrar - Nunh-huh 02:42, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
To round it off the service was conducted by Canon George Prothero (1818-1894) (no wikipedia article though his sons Rowland Prothero and George Walter Prothero have articles) and the other Westminster Abbey staff present were
  • minor canon Rev. John Henry Cheadle, ???? - ????
  • minor canon Rev. John Troutbeck, 1832-1899
  • Canon Thomas James Rowsell (1816-1894)
  • Canon Alfred Barry (1826-1910)
  • Canon Robinson Duckworth 1834-1911
  • Rev. Samuel Flood Jones (precentor) 1826-1895
  • the Chapter Clerk, Mr. Charles St. Clare Bedford (1810-1900)
  • Frederick Bridge, organist 1844-1924 (according to The Times, he composed an anthem for the funeral)

The Dean, George Bradley, was not in the country at the time of the funeral hence Canon Prothero was in charge. --Erp (talk) 04:35, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

When W. D. Hamilton died, Richard Dawkins had the anthem that Bridge wrote for Darwin sung at his memorial service. - Nunh-huh 12:05, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
"Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and getteth understanding.", Proverbs iii, 13, 15, 16, 17. . dave souza, talk 13:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
It has been recorded by the Choir of New College Oxford. You can hear it at their shop (scroll down, it's #12). - Nunh-huh 22:42, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

More detail on the funeral?[edit]

Considering the sheer scale of the event, doesn't it deserve far more detail? [Almost a state funeral!]

"Death and funeral See also: Darwin from Insectivorous Plants to Worms In 1882 he was diagnosed with what was called "angina pectoris" which then meant coronary thrombosis and disease of the heart. At the time of his death, the physicians diagnosed "anginal attacks", and "heart-failure".[148]

He died at Down House on 19 April 1882. His last words were to his family, telling Emma "I am not the least afraid of death – Remember what a good wife you have been to me – Tell all my children to remember how good they have been to me", then while she rested, he repeatedly told Henrietta and Francis "It's almost worth while to be sick to be nursed by you".[149] He had expected to be buried in St Mary's churchyard at Downe, but at the request of Darwin's colleagues, after public and parliamentary petitioning, William Spottiswoode (President of the Royal Society) arranged for Darwin to be buried in Westminster Abbey, close to John Herschel and Isaac Newton. The funeral was held on Wednesday 26 April and was attended by thousands of people, including family, friends, scientists, philosophers and dignitaries.[17][150]"

2.27.132.13 (talk) 19:56, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

This article is a concise overview, and is already pushing past the recommended size for such articles. Much more detail of the funeral is shown at Darwin from Insectivorous Plants to Worms, and while that can possibly be expanded a bit it's noticeable that Browne's very highly rated biography actually gives relatively litte space to the funeral so I don't think the detail is as significant as you suggest. Of course you could get a user account and try writing Funeral of Charles Darwin, making sure that it's fully supported by reliable secondary sources. . dave souza, talk 21:34, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Browne's "very highly rated biography" managed to leave out Rev. Farrar as one of ten pallbearers on page 497! Browne's "very highly rated biography" also got the date of Henrietta Darwin's death wrong!

00:14, 6 December 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.132.13 (talk)

CD = A Fellow of the Linnean Society : 1#

http://www.linnean.org/Education+Resources/History_of_science

2.30.188.133 (talk) 17:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Linnean Society[edit]

He was elected as a Fellow of the Linnean Society in 1856.

2.27.112.206 (talk)

Source needed, both for the fact an for any particular significance that would in some way justify mentioning the fact in this brief overview. . 17:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Fellows of the Linnean Society of London[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Fellows_of_the_Linnean_Society_of_London&pageuntil=Macleay%2C+Alexander%0AAlexander+Macleay#mw-pages

CAN SOMEONE ADD:

Charles Darwin, 1856

Francis Darwin, 1875

Thanks,

2.27.112.206 (talk) 21:42, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Sources needed. . dave souza, talk 17:38, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

An e-mail from the Linnean Society Dave! I checked through the whole list for two hours this morning; I was amazed that both CD and Francis Darwin were missing - perhaps deleted in error when Sarah Darwin was added? If you transpose the whole list of FLS to the main body of the article, I can do some much-needed editing on Tuesday afternoon; I have supplied the list to The Linnean Society, and expect some reaction next week (to put it mildly). The Chairman of the CD Trust is one Stephen Keynes, a Darwin descendant by the way. Unfortunately there are several people listed who most definitely NOT FLS - but overall it has the feel of a good list, albeit somewhat neglected. Thanks for your help; J.P. (Redacted)2.30.190.5 (talk) 20:25, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear 2.30.190.5, Wikipedia:Verifiability policy requires published sources: a private email gives an indication, but isn't a published sources. Also, why not get your own account to make editing much easier? . . . dave souza, talk 00:03, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
(Redacted), if you could publish suitable evidence on the Linnean Society website, we could cite that in the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:22, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately 'Wikigeds., it is a sad refection on Wikipedia that Charles/Francis Darwin are not on the Linnean Society (Wikipedia) list of Fellows, and that there are people included who are NOT F.L.S.2.30.190.66 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:28, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

It isn't sad at all. During the middle ages, Wikipedia would have reported (with authoritative sources) that the Sun and planets orbited the earth on crystal spheres (Apian, Peter. Cosmographia, 1524). We follow what is reliably published, we do not use what somebody told us. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:51, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

CD = A Fellow of the Linnean Society:

http://www.linnean.org/Education+Resources/History_of_science

'J.P.' (Butler)

2.30.188.133 (talk) 17:33, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to Chiswick Chap for the good faith edit, but the timing is wrong and this election really isn't significant enough for the short summary: I'll look at adding something to Publication of Darwin's theory. Freeman, R. B. 1978. Charles Darwin: A companion p. 107 says that CD joined the Linnean in 1854 (for library access), and on p. 109 lists "Linnean Society of London, CD Fellow 1854." That covers the principle for the category,(Redacted). Still no reliable published source for Francis Darwin. . dave souza, talk 23:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Page ii here says,"In 1882 he was elected Fellow of the Royal Society; he was Foreign Secretary from 1903 to 1909, and Vice-President 1907-1908." Yopienso (talk) 02:05, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

THANKS FOR THE R.S. OBITUARY OF F.D., CAN YOU POST THE LINKS FOR GEORGE AND HORACE PLEASE? 'J. PARSLOW' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.30.207.97 (talk) 19:48, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Yopienso, that covers the Royal Society for Francis Darwin, but not the Linnean Society. Wikisource has him as "Sc.D, MB, FRS; Hon. Fellow of Christ's College, Cambridge; botanist" so no indication there about the Linnean. Hopefully something will turn up. . dave souza, talk 07:46, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Oops! This Journal of the L.S. has Francis being removed from the Council on p. 12 and elected to it on p. 17. He's found on a list of donors here. On p. 72 of the Proceedings his name is followed "F.L.S." Not the highest quality sources, but clear enough, I think. Yopienso (talk) 08:25, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks again! Taking the same approach, my googling was less successful but led me to p. 32 "Dr. FRANCIS DARWIN, F.R.S., F.L.S.: I beg leave to thank you," so that's reassuring. Now all we need is for the persistent IP to find a source for the year he was elected. . dave souza, talk 11:34, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes, if he can find it. The Linnean Society seems to be more a club like an American honor society than an academic association, and much less exclusive than the Royal Society. They practically beg you to join . . . for £50, discounted for junior members. Doesn't seem worth putting much effort into this detail. Yopienso (talk) 12:18, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't know when to quit. :( And I imagine the L.S. was more prestigious 200 years ago than it is today. The book by Janet Browne, says on p. 434 that CD nominated Francis in 1875. His election on 2 Dec. of that year is recorded in the Proceedings. Yopienso (talk) 12:34, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thanks, Yopienso, that seems to cover the various points and we can go along with Freeman on CD being elected Fellow in 1854. Apparently the IP posted a private email without permission, as a courtesy I've redacted the relevant points. Think that's us finished. . dave souza, talk 15:28, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Q.E.D.[edit]

Charles Darwin

"Darwin's book was only partly written when, on 18 June 1858, he received a paper from Wallace describing natural selection. Shocked that he had been "forestalled", Darwin sent it on that day to Lyell, as requested by Wallace,[112][113] and although Wallace had not asked for publication, Darwin suggested he would send it to any journal that Wallace chose. His family was in crisis with children in the village dying of scarlet fever, and he put matters in the hands of Lyell and Hooker. After some discussion, they decided on a joint presentation at the Linnean Society on 1 July of On the Tendency of Species to form Varieties; and on the Perpetuation of Varieties and Species by Natural Means of Selection; however, Darwin's baby son died of the scarlet fever and he was too distraught to attend.[114]" (Wikipedia article).

Don't tell anyone but both Darwin and Wallace were FELLOWS OF THE LINNEAN SOCIETY, but for someone unknown reason (that no one had previously noticed) Darwin is not listed as a Fellow! Think about it, would Darwin have been 'presenting' his paper, had he not been FLS? God knows who else is missing off the Wikipedia list, but having searched "Linnean Society" on ODNB, there may well be more! 'J.P.' 2.27.132.227 (talk) 20:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

You are assuming that IF x speaks-at LS then x is-a FLS, which may have been true or may not, who knows, perhaps they invited guests in from time to time. It certainly isn't self-evident, so (to reiterate) we require written evidence from a reliable source (which we cheerfully admit Wikipedia isn't). So, sorry, don't waste time berating the encyclopedia, it is only allowed to go on what is known and printed; and it's very much a work-in-progress. If you know of things that are reliably sourced, feel free to add them rather than endlessly arguing. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:37, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Wallace was a Fellow of the Linnean in 1858? The ip looks increasingly unreliable. . dave souza, talk 23:25, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

The reference for CD being a Fellow of TLS is :

"They chose the Linnean for entirely opportunistic reasons. Lyell, Hooker, and Darwin were all fellows of the society and council members (Darwin was elected to the council in 1858.)" on Page 35, Chapter 1 of Janet Browne's "CHARLES DARWIN: THE POWER OF PLACE" (Volume II Of A Biography") published in 2002.

I will keep you guys posted tomorrow on the response of TLS to the Wikipedia list of F.L.S.; 'J.P.'

2.27.132.111 (talk) 01:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Link to google books copy, p.35. On the following page (36), Browne says that Wallace was elected a fellow in 1871.
David Wilson (talk · cont) 03:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Wallace is categorised as a Fellow of the Linnean, but his election's not mentioned in the Alfred Russel Wallace article. .dave souza, talk 08:17, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

List of Fellows of The Linnean Society[edit]

I have supplied a very long list of FRS's (past) from what is hopefully a excellent source (ie not from Wikipedia) to the Linnean Society, in order to encourage them to publish their own data on-line; unfortunately there is a fundamental difference between biographical articles written by experts, and the poorer articles which appear on Wikipedia. (Ironically the Wikipedia articles appear far more prominently on "google" search engine results and hence get much more attention.) Watch this space! NB:

Sir Francis Darwin was elected as a Fellow of the Linnean Society on the 2nd of December 1875. This was published as follows: "1875. Dec. 2. Darwin, Francis, M.B. Down, Beckenham, Kent." in: The Linnean Society of London: List of the Linnean Society of London, 1876. [London:] Printed by Taylor and Francis, Red Lion Court, Fleet Street. p.10. 2.27.132.17 (talk) 23:53, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Timeline[edit]

Does the article fully reflect the most important (non-family) events of CD's life?

1809 12 February Born in Shrewsbury, England, the son of Robert Waring Darwin and Susannah, nee Wedgwood.


1813 In the summer goes to Gros, near Abegele, in Wales, for sea-bathing with family, some of his earliest recollections coming from this.


1814-1816 No information about his being away from The Mount.


1817 Attends day school in Shrewsbury run by George Case, Unitarian minister. His mother dies.


1818 In June goes to Samuel Butler’s school at Shrewsbury as a boarder (stayed 7 years). Butler was the grandfather of Samuel Butler (1835-1902) the science writer and critic of Darwinism.


1819 July Summer holiday at Plas Edwards, Towyn, N. Wales.


1820 July went on riding tour with Erasmus brother to Pistyll Rhayader, N. Wales.Darwin aged 9


1822 June went to Downton, Wilts with sister Caroline. July went to Montgomery & Bishop's Castle, Shropshire with sister Susan.


1824 Visits Llandudno, Wales, with school friend John Price.


1825 17 June taken away early from Shrewsbury School by his father. On 22 October matriculates with his brother Erasmus at the University of Edinburgh. Registers for medical courses. First lecture on 26 October. Lodged at 11 Lothian St.


1826 June takes a walking tour in North Wales. In the winter meets Dr Robert Grant (1793-1874), naturalist and Lamarckian, and examines marine animals. 10 November elected to Plinian Society.


1827 27 March reads papers on marine animals to Plinian Society. Leaves Edinburgh in April. Visits Belfast and Dublin in spring. Visited Paris in May with Wedgwood cousins, his only time in France. This summer he spends much time at Woodhouse, the home of the Mostyn Owens. On 15 October is admitted to Christ’s College, University of Cambridge, but does not move there until January 1828. Reads for an ordinary degree, the usual preliminary for theological training (which was never undertaken).


1828 Becomes friendly with his cousin William Darwin Fox at Christ's. Is a keen entomologist and collector of beetles. Attends John Stevens Henslow’s botany classes.


1829 Travels to Wales to collect insects with entomologist Frederick William Hope. Spends Michaelmas term in Cambridge. Entomologises with Leonard Jenyns; Friday evenings at Henslow's. July his name appears in Stephens' Illustrations of British Entomology. December three weeks in London with Erasmus. Entomological visits to Hope and Stephens.


1830 January in Cambridge, reading for 'Little Go'. August collects insects in North Wales with Hope. March passes 'Little Go'. August entomological tour in North Wales with Hope and T. C. Eyton.


1831 Passes his BA examinations on 22 January without honours and remains at Cambridge for a further two terms to fulfill residence requirement. Spends much time with Henslow, and in August accompanies Adam Sedgwick, Professor of Geology, on his annual field trip to Wales. In August he returns to Shrewsbury from Wales to find a letter from Henslow inviting him to join the Beagle voyage. Darwin’s father objects, but his uncle, Josiah Wedgwood II, persuades him otherwise. Meets Captain Robert FitzRoy (1805-65) and makes preparations for the voyage. Begins Beagle diary. After two false starts, the ship leaves Plymouth on 27 December.

1832 16 January, Darwin makes his first landing on a tropical shore at St Jago, Cape Verde Islands. Field notebooks begin to be used. From February 1832 to May 1834 the Beagle surveys the east coast of South America. In December arrives in Tierra del Fuego.


1833 March, Beagle visits Falkland Islands. From April to July around Maldonado, August to December in Rio Negro and Montevideo.


1834 Early part of the year is spent surveying in Tierra del Fuego and another visit to the Falkland Islands. April to May Darwin and FitzRoy make an inland expedition along the River Santa Cruz. Repeated ports of call in Tierra del Fuego, eventually leaving the Straits of Magellan in June. From June 1834 to September 1835 the Beagle surveys the west coast of South America. Calls at Chiloé Island. From end of July to November Darwin resides in Valparaiso, returns to Chiloé until February 1835.


1835 Spends February in Valdivia and early March in Concepcion, makes long excursion northwards from March to September, calling at Copiapo, Iquique and Callao. Beagle departs Lima on 7 September for the Galapagos Archipelago. Darwin spends 16 September to 20 October exploring the archipelago, 15- 26 November in Tahiti, 21-30 November in New Zealand. December Henslow prints extracts from his letters.


1836 Beagle calls at Sydney in January, Hobart in February, Cocos and Keeling Islands in April, followed by Mauritius. Visits Cape of Good Hope from 31 May to 18 June. Writes first article to be published with Fitzroy. The ship makes way across Atlantic ocean calling at St Helena and Ascension Islands in July. Returns briefly to Brazil in August to check some readings. Calls at Azores in September. 2 October, Beagle drops anchor at Falmouth, England, and on 4 October Darwin returns home to Shrewsbury. Begins to publish scientific papers.


1836-1837 16 December to 6 March 1837 lives in lodgings in Fitzwilliam Street, Cambridge.


1837 In March takes lodgings in 36 Great Marlborough Street, London. Gives papers at the Geological Society of London. Arranges for his Beagle specimens to be identified. Begins publication of The Zoology of the Voyage of the Beagle (1838-43). Becomes friendly with the geologist Charles Lyell. The naturalist John Gould identifies his bird specimens. In July opens his first notebook on the transmutation of species.


1838 Works intensely on a variety of natural history and geological topics. Finishes a paper on the geology of Glen Roy in Scotland. On 28 September he read 'for amusement' T. R. Malthus Essay on the Principle of Population (1798). 'Here, then, I had at last got a theory by which to work' (Autobiography). On 11 November proposes marriage to his cousin Emma Wedgwood (1808-96). In the last weeks of the year moves to a house in Gower Street, London.


1839 Marries Emma Wedgwood on 29 January. Publishes Journal of Researches, later known as Voyage of the Beagle. Elected a Fellow of the Royal Society. First child, a son William, is born. He and Emma eventually have ten children, seven of whom reach adulthood. Disseminates Questions about the breeding of animals.


1840 Publishes paper On the formation of mould. The book on this subject would only be published in 1881.


1841 Writes cousin Fox that, when finished with current projects, will write a book to be entitled 'Varieties & Species'. Publishes some geological articles such as On the distribution of erratic boulders.


1842 Makes a short geological excursion in Wales. Settles with his wife and young family in Down House, in the village of Downe in Kent. Publishes The structure and distribution of coral reefs. On a visit to his wife’s family home, Maer in Staffordshire, makes a brief pencil sketch of his theory of ‘descent with modification'.


1843 Building works at Down House. Continues work on volcanic islands.


1844 Expands sketch into a longer Essay. Writes a memorandum to Emma Darwin requesting that this essay should be published if he should die unexpectedly, giving the names of several friends who would serve as possible editors. Publishes Geological Observations on the Volcanic Islands visited during the Voyage of HMS Beagle.


1845 Expands and revises Journal of Researches for a second edition. Begins a lifelong relationship with the London publishing house of John Murray.


1846 Publishes Geological Observations on South America. October begins work on barnacles.


1847 Continues work on barnacles. Visits Shrewsbury February to March, June British Association for Advancement of Science at Oxford. Later returns home in July. 22 October to 5 November in Shrewsbury.


1848 November, his father Robert Waring Darwin dies.' Goes to Shrewsbury for the funeral but arrives too late to attend.


1849 March to June the whole family reside in Malvern Wells so that he can take the water cure. Publishes chapter on Geology in A manual of scientific enquiry; prepared for the use of Her Majesty's Navy.


1850 Working on barnacles. 11-18 June visits Malvern Wells.

1851 March takes oldest daughter Annie to Malvern where she dies of fever on 23 March, aged ten.' In July the family visits the Great Exhibition in London’s Hyde Park. Publishes the first of two volumes on barnacles, A Monograph on the sub-class Cirripedia, and the first of two volumes on fossil barnacles, A Monograph on the fossil Lepadidae.


1852 Spent year working on barnacles (Sessile Cirripedes). 24 March to Rugby for a day and thence to Shrewsbury returning home 1 April. 11 September to Leith Hill Place to visit Josiah Wedgwoods, returning home on 16th.


1853 Spent 'Whole year preparing M.S of Sessile Cirripedes for press.'


1854 Publishes concluding volumes on barnacles, A Monograph on the sub-class Cirripedia, and A Monograph on the fossil Balanidae and Verrucidae. Immediately begins full-time work on species.


1855 'March & April. Employed chiefly in comparing seeds—trying experiments in salting seeds.— & reading.—'


1856 On Charles Lyell’s advice begins writing up his views for a projected big book called 'Natural Selection'.


1857 Whole year spent writing chapters of species book.


1858 In June receives a letter from Alfred Russel Wallace who is collecting specimens in Indonesia. Wallace encloses an essay on species and varieties that mirrors Darwin’s own theory of natural selection. 'I never saw a more striking coincidence. ..If Wallace had my MS sketch written out in 1842 he could not have made a better short abstract!' Baby Charles dies of scarlet fever on 28 June. Extracts from Darwin and Wallace’s writings presented by Charles Lyell and Joseph Hooker at the Linnean Society of London on 1 July. Neither Darwin nor Wallace attend. Papers published in Journal of the Proceedings of the Linnean Society of London. Visits Isle of Wight where he begins an 'abstract' of his views for publication.


1859 On the Origin of Species by means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life is published in London on 24 November by John Murray. On publication day Darwin is taking the water cure in Ilkley, Yorkshire.


1860 Publishes 2nd edition of Origin. Foreign editions appear. Begins work on Variation book.


1861 Continued work on Variation book. Published 3rd edition of Origin. Began work on Orchid book.


1862 Begins to grow a beard after an episode of ill health. Publishes On the Various Contrivances by which British and foreign Orchids are fertilised by Insects, and On the Good Effects of Intercrossing. Meets Alfred Russel Wallace on his return from Indonesia.


1863 Seriously ill, consults many medical men about his symptoms. Ill health continues until spring 1866.


1864 In November awarded the Copley medal of the Royal Society of London, its highest scientific honour.


1865 Publishes an article on climbing plants in the journal of the Linnean Society of London, ‘On the Movements and Habits of Climbing Plants’. Later published as a book in 1865.


Charles Darwin in 18661866 Publishes 4th edition of Origin. Continued work on Variation book. Sits for the portrait, right.


1867 Completes Variation MS. Distributes several Queries about expression.


1868 July Visits Isle of Wight and meets Alfred Lord Tennyson and Julia Margaret Cameron. Is photographed by Cameron. Publishes The Variation of Animals and Plants Under Domestication.


1869 Publishes 5th edition of Origin. Continues work on descent of man.


1870 Whole year working on descent of man. Various visits to relatives.


1871 Publishes The Descent of Man, and Selection in relation to Sex. Engages in dispute with St George Mivart, adds a new chapter to sixth edition of Origin of Species to rebut Mivart’s claims. Daughter Henrietta marries Richard Litchfield and moves to Bryanston Street in London where Darwin becomes a regular visitor.


1872 Publishes 6th edition of Origin. 13 February to 21 March rents London holiday house at 9 Devonshire St. In October takes a family holiday in a rented house in Sevenoaks, Kent. Is impressed with the veranda and on returning to Down House builds one there. Publishes The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals.


1873 Attends a soiree at George Eliot’s house. Worked on climbing plants and 2nd edition of Descent of man.


1874 A séance is held at his brother’s house in January but Darwin does not attend. ‘The Lord have mercy on us all, if we have to believe in such rubbish.’ 2nd editions of Descent and Coral Reefs published.


1875 Publishes Insectivorous Plants. Gives evidence to the Royal Commission on Subjecting Live Animals to Experiments. Sits to the portrait painter Walter William Ouless, for the family. A copy later made by Ouless for Christ’s College, Cambridge, etched by Paul Rajon. ‘I look a very venerable, acute melancholy old dog’.


1876 During the summer begins to write an autobiographical memoir for his children and future grandchildren. ‘I know that it would have interested me greatly to have read even so short and dull a sketch of the mind of my grandfather written by himself, and what he thought and did, and how he worked.’ This memoir published in edited form in Francis Darwin’s Life and Letters of Charles Darwin (1887) Publishes The Effects of Cross and Self Fertilisation in the Vegetable Kingdom. In September Darwin’s first grandchild is born to Francis and Amy Darwin. Amy dies in childbirth and Francis goes to live with his parents at Down House with the baby, Bernard Darwin. Francis becomes Darwin’s secretary and botanical assistant.


1877 Awarded Honorary LLD from Cambridge University. Publishes The Different Forms of Flowers on Plants of the same Species and ‘A biographical sketch of an Infant’ in the journal Mind which was written up from notes made in 1839-41 on his firstborn, William Darwin.


1878 'The whole of this last year [working on] on the circumnutating Movements of plants & bloom.'


1879 In August takes a family holiday in Coniston in the Lake District. Meets John Ruskin. Publishes a biographical study of his grandfather, Erasmus Darwin. Translated from the German by W.S. Dallas, with a preliminary notice by Charles Darwin, followed by bitter controversy with Samuel Butler after he accuses Darwin of plagiarism. Is painted in oils for the Cambridge Philosophical Society by William Blake Richmond, dismissed by Emma Darwin as ‘quite horrid, so fierce & so dirty’.


1880 Publishes The Power of Movement in Plants…Assisted by Francis Darwin.


1881 July, takes another holiday in the Lake District, based in Ullswater. In August his brother Erasmus dies, and is buried in Downe churchyard. Publishes The Formation of Vegetable Mould through the Action of Worms, with observations on their Habits. Bestows money to Kew Gardens for publication of Index Kewensis. Arranges a civil list pension for Wallace. Defends right of scientists to experiment on live animals.


1882 Dies 19 April, aged seventy-three. Buried in Westminster Abbey, 26 April.

2.27.131.101 (talk) 10:12, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

The main points are covered in this article, the details are in the sub-articles. Of course some details may appropriately have some more coverage in these articles, and you may feel that specific points are so important that they should be noted in this article: if so, please propose specific wording on the relevant article talk page, with the source or sources that you feel justify their inclusion. . dave souza, talk 12:26, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Dave, the above timeline was put together by two world-class CD experts, but it lacks family history. 2.27.132.216 (talk) 02:02, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

LDS[edit]

Is Ermengard Maitland buried with her mother, Lady Florence Darwin, previously Maitland, nee Fisher?

2.30.187.198 (talk) 09:11, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

"Charles Darwin in Cambridge: The most joyful years" (2014)[edit]

I can recommend this new book - with the exception of page 123, which has NO place in an otherwise well written and illustrated book; this has just been brought to the author/publisher's attention in Singapore! [Also an obvious error on page 112, confusing 'Down(e)' and "Down", as in the place and house of course.] Otherwise it's a good read, written before the Darwin family graves in Cambridge were identified: Francis, George, Horace and the four wives, and some of their children: Frances Cornford and Gwen Raverat. Darwin's legacy in Cambridge? Most of his family is buried there, and not in Downe.

2.27.146.59 (talk) 14:54, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Pallbearers[edit]

Interesting that the 8th Duke of Argyll was one of Darwin's pallbearers. In the 8th Duke's Wikipedia bio. it states that: "He was a leader in the scholarly opposition against Darwinism (1869, 1884b)" Why would he then be a pallbearer?

2.30.190.65 (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Respect. . . dave souza, talk 18:42, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

NO tutors at Christ's College, Cambridge mentioned?[edit]

b. 1799 d. Mar. 4, 1851

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Graham_(bishop) b. Feb. 23, 1794 d. Jun. 15, 1865

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Shaw_(Christ%27s_College) b. 1786 d. Jun. 1, 1859

2.30.207.233 (talk) 11:27, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

We mention both John Stevens Henslow and Adam Sedgwick, who both tutored CD while he was at Christ's. If good sources show that these others have some significance to CD's life and work, that sourced info could be added to Charles Darwin's education but it really doesn't look significant enough to go in this overview article. . dave souza, talk 12:15, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Rev. John Graham = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Graham_(bishop)

Rev. Joseph Shaw = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Shaw_(Christ%27s_College)

See above articles for 2 out of 3 Dave! These 3 tutors do deserve to be mentioned in the 'overview'! Their discovery in the records of Christ's College, Cambridge was only made last year Dave (2014).

For the record, Ash, Graham, and Shaw were Darwin's actual tutors, while Henslow and Sedgwick were not 'tutors, they were PROFESSORS Dave!

2.24.4.67 (talk) 13:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC)