Talk:Charlie Adams (drummer)

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Autism film[edit]

I removed this text from the lead:

"He is a spokesman for the Autism Society of America, and is co-producing a full-length feature film, Jason's Run, which highlights the challenging disorder of autism."

and this from the body:

"As an Autism Society of America spokesman, Adams is co-producing a full-length feature film entitled Jason's Run, produced by Kingdom Films, of which he and his wife Andrea are consultants. The dramatic film is a fictional account of an autistic white boy and his enduring friendship with a black boy from the "other side of the tracks", and highlights the puzzling and challenging disorder of autism.

the latter citing this source:

"Jason's Run - The motion picture". kingdomfilmsinc.com. Retrieved 2007-08-17. 

The cited source does not support the claim that Adams is a spokesman for the ASA: it never says anything about anybody being a spokesman. Also, the cited source does not say that Adams is co-producing the film. Nor does it say that autism is challenging or puzzling or a disorder. Let's find a reliable source for this claim before reinstating it into the text. My own impression is that the Jason's Run project is in pre-development and is not notable. I checked at autism-society.org and found no evidence that Adams is a spokesman for that society. Eubulides (talk) 22:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

My edit was soon reverted by a series of edits that contained these comments:
  • "Seriously, why is this simple information so controversial for you. Revert/move existing ref. and a number of other existing refs say the same thing."
  • "clarity - may or may not be an ASA spokesman at the present time - but definitely has been - and that is an uncontroversial fact."
However, the newly added sources are (1) not reliable, (2) do not say that Adams was ever an ASA spokesman, and (3) do not make it clear that Jason's Run is a current or notable project.
  • The Emediawire press release was apparently self-published, and it does not say that Adams was an ASA spokesman in 2004. Furthermore, self-published press releases are not reliable sources (see WP:SPS).
  • The Youtube video is a self-published fundraising video. It does not say that Adams was an ASA spokesman. Furthermore, self-published Youtube videos are not a reliable sources either (see WP:SPS and Wikipedia:Reliable source examples #Are IRC, MySpace, and YouTube reliable sources?).
  • Press releases and fundraising ads are not reliable sources for establishing that Jason's Run is a notable and current project. Wikipedia is not supposed to be the place for promoting causes or events, no matter how worthy; see WP:NOTADVERTISING.
  • We continue to need a reliable, 3rd party source on these two issues. I am skeptical that Adams was ever a spokesman for the Autism Society of America. Jason's Run is pretty clearly a project that Adams was engaged upon at some point, but it's not at all clear from reliable sources that he is still working on it. As per WP:BLP #Sources, self-published material like this can be included only if "it is not unduly self-serving" and "it does not involve claims about third parties". Certainly the claim about the ASA is a claim about 3rd parties. And the claims about Jason's Run, as it stood, were pretty self-serving.
  • I attempted to fix these problems by rewriting the text to remove the promotional fluff (see WP:NPOV) and to use sources that are at least somewhat better than Youtube videos.
Eubulides (talk) 15:10, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree with your edits and appreciate the explanations. However, I do still fail to understand your skepticism when it comes to this gentleman having been a spokesperson for the ASA. I have also read it on his site and see no reason why a person would lie about that. I did incorrectly think that "partnering" was the same as being a "spokesperson", but either way, your edits are a fair compromise and more accurate. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 01:43, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Today's Google Doodle (Taiwan, 2012-01-06)[edit]

Hi all,

I noticed that Charlie Adams was featured in today's Google Doodle in Taiwan. Can anyone explain this?

Thanks,

The Doctahedron, 20:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I had to check that out, but it is for a different Charlie Adams: [1] ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 04:52, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Charlie Adams' web sit[edit]

I notice that charlieadams.org (the site linked to in the article) seems to have expired. Should it be removed? ~Piki (talk) 03:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)