Talk:Charlie Crist

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Former good article nominee Charlie Crist was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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depuffed and tightened[edit]

Also remove "allegations", and material not directly relevant to the BLP, including speculation as to motives and positions, and video "extended links". Collect (talk) 13:44, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Flip Flopper King[edit]

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Is there anything about Charlie Crist that's real? Nope...nothing. Charlie is the most self-serving, worthless piece of political garbage since Harry Reid! (Harry Reid...ick...sounds like a porn star!) Speaking of porn, it's obscene what Mr. Crist is trying to do for HIMSELF! Clearly and cleanly beaten in the Republican Senatorial race by Marco Rubio, Mr. Crist flops over to the DIM-oh-craps just to try and get another political feather in his cap. Well, "sorry Charlie"...it isn't going to happen. Republican, DIM-OH-CRAP, or Independent...there is ONE big letter on your forehead. Yep, you bear the mark of the BIG L....LOSER! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.76.30.253 (talk) 08:14, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


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Walt McNeil[edit]

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How big a deal was Christ's appointment of Walter McNeil to a head the department of corrections as reported here? I came across some articles about how McNeil didn't actually go to classes or do actual coursework to get a degree. Seems pretty shady. Candleabracadabra (talk) 01:00, 15 April 2014 (UTC)


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Marco Rubio - Tea Party[edit]

This morning I reverted the removal of text by Doorzki who objects to Marco Rubio's characterization as a "Tea Party candidate". In reviewing the edit, I checked Rubio's wiki article, which states that he has been called the "crown prince" of the Tea Party movement, and appears to me to be reliably sourced to [1] and [2]. Therefore, it was my opinion that adding the "Tea Party" label was only a WP:BLP violation because the source was not given inline per WP:MINREF, so I restored the text and added the source. Collect reverted my edits with a note to BLP discussions about contentious claims of Tea Party affiliation. However, it appears to me to be a reliably-sourced claim of his prominence in the Tea Party movement, so I don't see any reason to object to its inclusion here. Thoughts?

Aside: as far as I can tell Collect's edit should have been automatically accepted under the PC1 criteria but it was not for some reason, so I have accepted it myself in good faith.

Um -- calling someone the "Tea Party candidate" where such a party does exist, and where no source states Rubio is a member thereof (in fact, he is not even a member of any "Tea Party caucus" as far as I can tell) is a contentious claim and would require more than an article saying Rubio is called the "crown prince" of anything. Cheers. Collect (talk) 22:10, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for posting this to Talk. I appreciate your consideration of my edit.
I believe at least one of your sources is an opinion article. Also, the "crown prince" article does not cite who called him that.
Let's say I were to hereby declare Barack Obama the crown prince of the "Teleprompter Party." I bet I could find many conservative opinion articles to support this criticism. Does that mean one should go change Barack Obama's Wikipedia article to state my projected political association? Of course not.
The way "Tea Party" is used in this article, in substitution of "Republican Party," is a pejorative attack used by left-leaning individuals to try to draw contrast between traditional Republicans and what some try to suggest to be a further-right group that somehow should not be considered Republicans. This is all politics and nothing more. Regardless, this article isn't about Marco Rubio, the political spectrum of American politics, or any of these other issues. It's about Charlie Crist. Saying that Crist lost to Marco Rubio in the Republican primary without assigning membership in a non-existent political party (as my edit attempts to do) is purely factual and appropriate. A political pejorative such as "Tea Party candidate" wreaks political bias. Doorzki (talk) 04:35, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Doorzki, you're right, your edit reflects NPOV and that's the smart move here, sources or not. I withdraw my criticism.
Collect, off-topic, but from what I can tell Rubio was once held in high regard by "Tea Party" contemporaries, particularly around the time of the primary with Crist, but later fell out of favour with the more right-wing conservatives (or however you view it). Anyway I don't have an argument here.
Thanks for discussing. See you around the wiki. Ivanvector (talk) 19:57, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
The "Tea Party candidate" requires something more than being backed by a tea party group - as I said above, we would not call, say, a presidential candidate a "Communist Party candidate" because they were endorsed by the CPUSA, would we? Collect (talk) 21:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)