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Definitely NOT invented in 1973!!![edit]

Israeli scientists may have improved the cherry tomato in 1973 but my mother was buying them at Gruber's Grocery Store in what was then the Village of Milan, Michigan in 1965.

So, the cherry tomato definitely was NOT invented in 1973! This article should be withdrawn until the true facts of the fruits origin are researched AND verified, since the statements it makes are patently false!

71.198.146.98 (talk) 19:20, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I've added several links and articles (including the newspaper articles from the lower discussion) to demonstrate that the cherry tomato predates 1973, and I will continue to monitor this page for further Israel related vandalism. Popular strains of cherry tomato were grown and exported from Greece in the 1800s, and likely earlier than that. --Stvfetterly (talk) 12:24, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Origins and History of Cherry Tomato[edit]

According to Andrew F. Smith, cherry tomato originated in Peru and Northern Chile. Apparently large lumpy fruits are variations of the smooth-skinned cherry tomato. According to the paper by Yuling Bai and Pim Lindhout, "wild tomato species have tiny fruits made to propagate the species and not to feed human beings". Domestication and breeding increased the fruit size. and numerous cultivars of tomatoes were already available at the end of the 19th century.Overbridge (talk) 06:37, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

F. Smith, Andrew (1994). The tomato in America: early history, culture, and cookery. University of South Carolina Press. ISBN 978-1570030000. 

Bai, Yuling; Lindhout, Pim (2007), "Domestication and Breeding of Tomatoes: What have We Gained and What Can We Gain in the Future?", Oxford Journals, Annals of Botany (Oxford University Press) 100 (5): 1085–1094 

Haim Rabinowitch and Nachum Kedar[edit]

I could not find any claim by Prof. Haim Rabinowitch and Prof. Nachum Kedar to have invented cherry tomato. According to the documentation you can find below, they worked in developing long shelf-life hybrids tomatoes. A variety called Daniela (beefsteak tomatoes) is one result of their efforts. They co-head BonTom research group one of the largest and leading tomato breeding groups worldwide.Overbridge (talk) 05:55, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

This claim makes no sense. The cultivar Large Red Cherry is considered an heirloom. There's no way the cherry tomato was invented in the early 1970's. Did these professors "invent" a certain variety of cherry tomato? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.118.51.44 (talk) 15:47, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Santorini Tomatines[edit]

I'm not sure it's correct to say this variety originated in Santorini. Cherry tomatoes were imported in Santorini, according to this[1] in 1818. Overbridge (talk) 05:15, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Contradict[edit]

Article at present states both that cherry tomatoes were invented in 1973 and that they were the ancestors of all modern tomatoes. 92.30.19.195 (talk) 22:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

According to "A whole foods primer: a comprehensive, instructive, and enlightening guide", there were tomatoes in central america in 1519, but there is nothing saying they were cherry tomatoes. invention has been cited in 1973, therefore removed the offending statement and tag --Worm 13:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Better photo needed[edit]

You see that is the prob wif your photos taken with no visual scale indicator. Those red fuits could be the size of thimbles, but then again they could be the size of watermelons. Since the only pertinent quality of a cherry tomato is its small size, a photo of one which does not clearly indicate this could be likened unto taking a picture of the world's smallest dog lying in his basket but giving no clue as to how big he might really be. Myles325a (talk) 04:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Origins of popular strains of Cherry Tomatoes[edit]

I removed this part:

"The most popular varieties today were developed in the Rehovot Faculty of Agriculture of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel."

There has recently been some controversy regarding this claim. See:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/world/middleeast/18israel.html?hp http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2010/02/who-invented-cherry-tomatoes-claim-by.html

It would seem that the information in that sentence is not necessarily correct, and due to the recent controversy and use in Israeli state press materials I removed it until properly sourced. I looked around a good bit myself to find supporting evidence - it would seem that the only information I could find was either from the Israeli government PR office, or used the Israeli PR office as its only source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.132.106.195 (talk) 13:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Origins of the POPULAR strains[edit]

Popular is the key. Cherry tomatoes indeed existed before Nahum Keidar or Israel were born, but the popular strain across the world today was developed by him. The difference is longer life-span and better taste that made them marketable. His development enabled Israel to sell the seeds to the cherry tomatoes, and they are being grown all over the world. Also, I find it problematic that you are citing an Anti-Israeli BLOG which represents an opinion (and a skewed one) as your source of reference. Here's a more reliable reference - http://www.wipo.int/edocs/mdocs/copyright/en/wipo_ip_fin_ge_09/wipo_ip_fin_ge_09_7-main1.pdf page 62 - I hope someone reads it and edits the Israelis credit back in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.223.101 (talk) 16:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Not invented in 1973 ...[edit]

Looking at some past news articles, it seems that the cherry tomato existed before 1973. This article refers to Richard Nixon and his family members having cherry tomato salad in 1971. This article refers to and shows a picture of a cherry tomato in 1967. In fact, this article from 1919 refers to the cherry tomato as one of the varieties of tomato. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:42, 30 April 2011 (UTC)