Talk:Chester-le-Street

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Untitled[edit]

how relevant is the old football here?

Expansion[edit]

This is a place steeped in history, with a Roman settlement and its temporary location as the home of St Cuthbert's coffin. This really needs a section. --129.234.4.76 09:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i would question the link to red rose school, is this really relavant to the article?. There are many schools in chester-le-street, i fail to see the need to list one (or indeed more of them) as they add nothing to the article. If anything this link smells like some kind of advert or something

Info map[edit]

If Chester-le-Street is in County Durham, why is there a map of Tyne & Wear? DellusMaximus 18:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to remove the label, but that made the whole map disappear. Hopefully someone with the no how will make one showing Chester-le-Street in relation to County Durham. OrchWyn 21:25, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eating Establishments[edit]

Chester-le-Street is not well known in the area for the quality of it's eating establishments at all. And if it was, Brenda's and Citrone's would not be the reason. This whole section seems irrelivant, and the bit about Mr.Pickwick's doesn't even make sense! Surely if Mr. Pickwick's is up market then Citrone's must be the "Poor man's Mr. Pickwick's".

The town is known locally for its quality of eating establishments. The town boasts "Brenda's", which is known for selling the best battered haggis outside of Scotland. Clem's, which is part of a small chain of well-known fish and chip shops, has a pleasant restaurant area above the takeaway section found on the ground floor. However, the favourite of the townspeople is the now famous, "Citrone's Cafe" located on the middle of the Front Street - the hub of the town. It is known locally as a "Rich Man's Pickwicks" due to similar, but more upmarket cuisine sold at "Mr. Pickwicks" further down the street.
I've removed this as its subjective and unsourced. If any of the establishment mentioned have won awards, and sources can be found to verify this, somebody could reword this and add it back to the article.212.140.167.99 14:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

Should something be added about how the name is pronounced? I've heard it (as well as Ponteland) described as the local places that are most frequently mispronounced by outsiders. A friend of mine (who used to live there) pronounces it "Chessley Street" whereas my missus (who is from 40 miles down the road) pronounces it "Chesterley Street". Some definitive guidance for us outsiders would be useful 146.87.65.10 08:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


As a good "Cestrian" (person from Chester-le-Street) myself I can confirm that people from the town and surrounding district pronounce it more like "Chess-lee-Street". In general you tend to find that other north easterners will miss pronounce it "Chesterley Street" while people from outside of the region mistake it for real French and pronounce it "Chester l'Street".

If anyone feels like typing that up in more encyclopedic language and putting it into the main article please feel free.

Haz bear01

Surely a good Cestrian (or a bad one) would come from Chester.


To most locals the town is known as "Chester". This gave rise to confusion, anecdotally, when a prison van run by a London based company left Durham gaol with the instruction to take the prisoners to "Chester Magistrates Court". Two hours later, on non arrival, it was contacted by radio and found to be half way along the M62. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.177.228 (talk) 18:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please tell me the correct pronunciation? I live here in Chesterley, Chestley...whatever. I can tell the people at school then (The Hermitage). They will find it interesting..."Yeah right." Who said that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrandpaGroove (talk • contribs) 17:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be some confusion from the BBC source. The spelling their is CHEST-uhr-li-street, which according to their pronunciation guide means the middle word should be said /lɪ/. But the other two examples, westerly and me, both are /iː/. If you ignore their pronunciation guide there's no problem, which suggests whoever wrote that blog entry wasn't using that guide. As that agrees with what everyone's comments above I've undone the last change which seemed to be following the BBC PDF. Another source would be nice though. JohnBlackburne (talk) 19:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a Londoner, but my parents told me it is pronounced "Chez-lee-street". Marchino61 (talk) 22:05, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Name etymology[edit]

Surely there should be some mention of the origin of the name? :o) — OwenBlacker 12:23, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beer price speculation[edit]

An unregistered user added a new section on beer prices, which I removed yesterday. It is written in a strange style, like advertising copy, with speculation about what people can afford, new ground and increased patronage. An unregistered user restored the addition today. Any good reason to keep it? --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 10:41, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Church[edit]

The church is an interesting building and the anchorage is known nationally in architectural and religious circles. I've added a bit.

Bandalore (talk) 12:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Civic Centre[edit]

I've added a by whom to the statement about the civic centre — frankly I find it hard to believe it's been much praised by anyone, and will remove the line unless there's a source. --John Blackburne (words ‡ deeds) 00:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it. If anyone wants to put it back in it needs some indication of who was praising it. --John Blackburne (words ‡ deeds) 13:35, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology[edit]

I've just rewritten this based on the sources I had to hand which are pretty good and comprehensive. But in the process I removed some information which may be correct, but was not sourced. I don't think the information removed was vital, but if it were sourced it would be good to add some of it back in, especially the various names with dates. I've copied the section before I changed it below for reference. --JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 16:53, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Romans called the town Concangis. The Northumbrian Angles called it Cuneceaster, meaning "the camp on the Cune Burn" (now known as the Cong Burn). One source suggests that in the 12th century the town was called Cestra, another claims that the Norman conquerors shortened the name from Cuneceaster to Ceastre, and later simply Chester.[1]
In the Middle Ages it became "Cestrie in Strata" (1372, another source gives "Cestria in Strata", c.1400; meaning "fort on the Roman road"), and subsequently "Chester in the Strett" (1523). The Old English suggests "Ceaster + straet".
Norman influence is apparent in the definite article "le" remaining even after the loss of the preposition. There are other towns and villages in the area which incorporate "le" in their names, such as Houghton-le-Spring, Hetton-le-Hole and Witton-le-Wear.
By the seventeenth century the modern name of Chester-le-Street had been adopted, to distinguish it from the ancient city of Chester standing on the River Dee near the Welsh border. The "Street" is the paved way, the ancient Roman road running north and south, on which the town grew, and which was previously called Hermon Street, but is now known as "Front Street".
Locally the town is often referred to simply as "Chester".

References

  1. ^ Selkirk (2000) pp. 45, 337

Anchorite[edit]

An anchorite, or a series of anchorites? We seem to be talking some 154 years here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 9cep22202@sneakemail.com (talk • contribs) 13:00, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've clarified it, and reordered it so it makes more sense.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 14:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Distinguish template[edit]

I think we should include the distinguish template:

Not to be confused with Chester.

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The town's international notability as an Ashes venue means that people with varying (i.e., little) understanding of UK towns will be linked here. A hat note that makes it obvious that the town is not in any way linked to the more well known Chester would be helpful to them (i.e., me and others, I'm sure).Travelpleb (talk) 21:53, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how disambiguation works - see WP:NAMB. It's only needed if the title, or one of the redirects here, were somehow ambiguous. I.e. if 'Chester' redirected here because this were the most notable town called by that. If that were the case then a link to Chester (disambiguation) would be useful. Alternately if this page name were very similar to 'Chester' – 'Chesster' for example – then it could easily be confused with Chester so a link should be added, but again one to the disambiguation page would be better.
But neither of those applies, and no-one is going to confuse this article with Chester. Further they should not get here by accident as although the town is known locally and informally as "Chester" outside of the region and in any formal context the full name is used, a convention that should be followed on WP.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 22:56, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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