Talk:Chesterfield

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Former good article nominee Chesterfield was one of the Geography and places good article nominees, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
April 3, 2011 Good article nominee Not listed
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I believe that Tomato Sausages were first created in Chesterfield some time ago. Maybe someone could research that as I don't know for certain.

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[edit] Education

I've removed the information about St.Mary's results... that belongs in an article either dedicated ot Education in Chesterfield or an article on the school itself. The statistics given just give percentages, they don't even state what they are of and hence useless. 70% of what?

I've also removed the information about the primary, infant and junior schools. Saying there are main ones is just not true, there must be well over 30 in Chesterfield, Hady Primary and Hasland Infatns and Juniors are two other big ones I can think of.

I'd appreciate it if someone could find evidence to backup the claim abotu the size of Chesterfield college.

82.195 blah blah blah bloke

can we leave the link to deincourt school please? and if people could help with developing that page it would be useful too. - talk to the schools project? Victuallers 08:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mistake in road names

I've changed "Hollywell Cross" to "Holywell"... that's the correct name.

Please let me know if I've gone about this the wrong way, as this is my first edit. :) Silverleaf79 02:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Silverleaf79 (talkcontribs) 02:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

Sorry it's the Chesterfield accent, skewing my spelling. Hollymoorside anyone? --79.68.68.215 (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] twin cities

as to city twinnings, "It should be noted that very little fanfare is made of this and most residents are unaware that Chesterfield is twinned with anywhere at all." - is that necessary? that's true for every place i can think of. city twinnings are never about "fanfare", and the passage sets a negative light on chesterfield's city twinnings, while i'm sure it's not any less or more negative than in any other place. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.177.167.33 (talk) 03:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Largest town in Derbyshire?

Surely Derby is bigger? LondonStatto 20:37, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Derby is a city. This could be made clearer, and a source should be provided. violet/riga (t) 20:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Derby ain't in Derbyshire either... it's in Derby, a unitary authority since 1997... and don't call me Shirley.

The suggestion that Derby is not in Derbyshire is, quite frankly, preposterous. It may not be in the administrative "county" run by Derbyshire County Council, but it's still in Derbyshire. LondonStatto (talk) 07:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but no: as stated correctly above, Derby remains in Derbyshire for ceremonial purposes only. Aside from that the only other purpose of a county is administrative - and for that purpose Derby is not in Derbyshire. It's kind of like Pluto: if it's still called a planet, it's only because everyone's comfortable with calling it a planet - even if it's not strictly true. - Shrivenzale (talk) 12:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Strictly speaking (going by current administrative areas) Derby is indeed not in Derbyshire; but most readers don't know that, so when we say It is Derbyshire's largest town we give a misleading impression. I recommend following the unambiguous style of the Derbyshire article which says Outside the main city of Derby, the largest town in the county is Chesterfield. --VinceBowdren (talk) 13:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
What about Chesterfield is the largest town in the Ceremonial county of Derbyshire, with Derby its only city or something to that effect? L.J.Skinnerwot|I did 14:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
How about the FACT that Chesterfield IS the largest town in Derbyshire... that's not misleading at all. Derby is not a town and hasn't been since 1977, over 30 years ago. This is not disputable, even if you think Derby is in Derbyshire (which it is ceremonially), Derby ain't a town and no one is going to think it's a town either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.237.47.51 (talk) 01:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Old Whittington

Needs a link to this article? ... Made one via the pic Victuallers 16:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Entertainment and leisure

The entertainment and leisure section reads like a promotional brochure from the Derbyshire board of tourism. This is an encyclopedia and the entries should be objective and factual. Sentences such as, Chesterfield has a vast array of leisure, entertainment and social facilities, and, The shopping opportunities in Chesterfield are sizeable are at best debatable and at worst useless. By what scale of measurement are the shopping opportunities to be considered sizeable, and exactly what constitutes a vast array of social facilities?

I'm new to this editing game and don't want to tread on anyone's toes, but I feel this section in particular needs work, and if no one objects I'd like to have a crack at it.MeanerWiththeScenery 04:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I see no reason why you shouldn't have a crack at it, it definatley needs work doing. Schumi555 09:16, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry but I'm quite proud of my little old town, I guess a lot of bias slipped in when I wrote that lot... 'tis true though, Chesterfield has a lot for a town of its size... just can't be arsed to find any references, so I guess it has to be binned if they can't be found. Ah well. We've got a multiplex cinema, you don't hear of small towns having stuff like that lol. Hopefully my edits to the transport section and rest of the major revamp to the "Shopping, entertainment and leisure" section were a little more successful 150.237.47.51 (talk) 01:41, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Layout

If someone get chance, please visit WP:UKCITIES for ideas on standard layout for settlements! This article would benefit greatly from it (I assure you!). -- Jza84 · (talk) 02:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Staveley Healthy living centre

Would it be an idea to mention about this somewhere? Calvin (talk) 12:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Added Public Services Section

Just added this to the article. Someone may want to rewrite it a bit, but I felt it was necessary to have on the article. Calvin (talk) 14:37, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Local Companies

there seems to be a lack of links and related articles to Local Companies, Bryan Donkin & Co., Markham & Co.,GKN Sheebridge Stokes, Chesterfield Cylinders (TI), (At least Arnold Laver is listed), And is Gordon Lamb not a local Business worthy of a mention? Staveley Chemicals and Iron Works (British steel) also important local companies / busineses.

Any one got enough info to start suitable articles ? BulldozerD11 (talk) 01:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Well one down Thanks to Tudorminstrel a few to go. Expanded business section a bit and added a few more with links ---BulldozerD11 (talk) 01:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC) Well done, these company articles are a great addition Victuallers (talk) 12:18, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hepworth sculpture duplication

Why is the information about the Hepworth sculpture, given under the heading Economy repeated verbatim under the heading Arts? Surely one mention is enough and that ought to be under Arts. I propose deletion of the copy under Economy. 94.197.191.79 (talk) 20:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

In fact, I've gone ahead and made the deletion. Even the reference was duplicated. When was the 124th September 2007, for pity's sake? 94.197.191.79 (talk) 21:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Chesterfield/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: 12george1 (talk) 02:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

General
  • Look for any place in the article that is missing citations, there is so many that I cannot list all of them here.
Lead
  • Wikilink England, miles, and km.
    • YesY Done
History
  • It looks like you split the first and second incorrectly, since you have information about the 1204 charter split up.
    • YesY Done - Merged part of second paragraph with the first. Schumi555 09:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Borough council
  • Wikilink the term "Liberal Democrat" to the political party of that country, because I am from USA and "Liberal Democrat" has a totally different definition here as compared to UK.
    • YesY Done Schumi555 09:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
  • ...1 and 3 councillors elected for each ward" - Spell-out 1 and 3
    • YesY Done Schumi555 09:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Economy
  • "The Institute of Business Advisers]" - Why is there a bracket there?
  • "The Chesterfield and North Derbyshire Branch]" - Same thing
    • YesY Done - Removed both brackets. Schumi555 09:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
  • What does "CPP" stands for?
    • YesY Done Added wikilink to the relevant page. Schumi555 09:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Town centre (under "Shopping, entertainment and leisure")
The Pavements (under "Shopping, entertainment and leisure")
  • "Queens park is a popular attraction where you can go swimming diving, gymnastics and tennis it does have a park as well with a train for the little kids to go one and there is also a boating lake." - This sounds like an advertisement.
    • YesY Done - Removed this sentence. The Park is mentioned in the sports and leisure section. Schumi555 09:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Sports and leisure
  • "consists of nine divisions and 3 cup competitions." - Spell-out 3
    • YesY Done Schumi555 09:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
References
  • Several references are just bare URLs and/or not in the CiteWeb or CiteNews, and also missing information like the author, publisher, date, and accessdates. Those references are: #1, #14-#27, #30-#35, #37, and #39-#59.
Since you did not address or fix the problem I had with the lead (shortness; in agreement with Bob Castle's suggestion) and references, I have no choice but to fail this nomination. I gave you a week and a half to fix this, but it was not fixed/addressed. You may try again later when these outstanding issues have been fixed.--12george1 (talk) 00:13, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Non-reviewer comments

Please don't link England, miles and km.--BelovedFreak 08:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The lead paragraph needs to summarise the content of the article - ideally, they should be at least two paragraphs long. Bob talk 09:48, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Date formats need to be consistent in the references section there are, day first, month first & ISO formats at the moment. Keith D (talk) 12:24, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

I've made some copyedits on errors and corrected some things. RcsprinterGimme a message 09:42, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I just need you to make sure there are citations throughout the article, and also revise the article per Bob and Keith D's suggestions.--12george1 (talk) 20:17, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Good work

This article is looking good. Well done. If you need to meet to discuss then you know about this. Victuallers (talk) 00:12, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

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