Talk:Chevrolet El Camino
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Customized photos of El Caminos
The photographs included with this article are inappropriate, as they depict customized versions of the car. Since this is an encyclopedia article about the Chevrolet El Camino, I would think it would be appropriate to include factory stock photos of the car rather than customized (or scale models) of said vehicle, to show readers what the car looked like when new. Let's have an editor go out, obtain some factory stock photographs of the cars (whether original factory promotional pictures or restored-to-stock models), and replace the pictures of the customized cars. [[Briguy52748 (talk) 01:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)]]
- I agree with that assessment; however, I challenge you to find photos of El Caminos on Commons or Flickr that aren't modified. The vast majority of Elkys, for whatever reason, seem to have custom rims of some sort. Also, factory photos are still verboten for the time being, as GM has not made their licensing policy very clear as to non-commercial usage. My biggest problem with this article, though, is more in regards to its lack of organization and LOTS of missing data. I'll do what I can to remedy some of that eventually. In the meantime, feel free to check out my GMC Caballero page - which, thanks to a source I've found, should have some actual Caballero photos arriving soon. Duncan1800 (talk) 09:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I would have to disagree with the last statement that less than 500 1967 El Caminos with a 396 engine were sold with a 4-speed transmission. Mainly due to the fact that while there are a known number of RPO L35 (396/325hp) and a statistically calculated number of RPO L34 (396/350hp) and RPO L78 (396/375hp) El Caminos built, when one begins combining multiple options such as engine/transmission combinations, the statistically calculated numbers become too diluted.
To wit: It is known from Chevrolet's own prduction figures there were 25,382 V8 Custom El Caminos (13680)and 5,387 V8 base El Caminos (13480) sold in the 1967 model year and both series were recipients of the total 2,565 RPO L35 396/325hp engine. The 396/325hp engine was the base 396 engine in the SS396 coupe and convertible so all of the L35 options were installed in the two El Camino series. When you then add in the statistical distribution of the two optional engines (17,176 RPO L34 and 612 RPO L78) that could be ordered in either of the SS396 body styles plus either of the El Camino series (13480 and 13680) one winds up with 4,089 additional El Caminos for a total of 6,654 (2565 + 4089) that could have had a 396 engine Were there that many L34 and/or L78 El Caminos? There's no way to really know for certain but given an even distribution of the two optional 396 engines, it's statistically possible. It is known there were L34 and L78 optioned El Caminos, just not how many for certain. In any event, there were certainly more than the 2,565 El Caminos that came with a 396 engine in 1967.
Transmission distribution is more difficult. Both the L35 and L34 could have been ordered with the optional Powerglide, optional TH400, or one of two optional 4-speeds ...or... retained the base 3-speed manual transmission and the L78 could only be ordered with one of the two 4-speeds. Attempting to break down the percentages of each engine/transmission combination is impossible; not only for 396 engines but any engine/transmission combination. For example, the base 4-speed (RPO M20) was an option code and not a specific transmission. The M20 that was available behind the 283 and 327 engines was a different M20 available behind the 396 engines; and Chevrolet only reported the number of RPO M20 transmissions, not what engine they were coupled with. That means taking 48,354 RPO M20 transmission sales and trying to break those out be engine type they were coupled with. Even if one factored in the 12,880 M21 close ratio 4-speeds for 396 engines only, you're going to get a very skewed number of 396 engines with 1 of the 5 transmissions possible.
So to say less than 500 396 engined El Caminos had a M20/M21 4-speed transmission, TH400 transmission, Powerglide, or even the standard base 3-speed transmission is an impossible assumption to back up with facts.
Check the series/body style production numbers and Chevrolet's reported options sold at http://www.chevellestuff.com and see if you can determine how many of what series/body style had what combination of options for any given year. You can't. -- originally posted by 22.214.171.124 in the article
Return of El Comino?
"This may have been backtracked within the past couple of years, however, as the Subaru Baja, the only "pickup car" recently available in the US, didn't sell well at all and was dropped after the 2006 model year. " I think Subaru originally only intended to build Baja's for a set period of time. Poor sales were a matter or poor advertising, not so great timin. Another comparison is the Honda Ridgeline, doing great in sales. Another bad comparison with the Baja is the first year model's engine was toward low end, following years got an engine wiht a 50% HP increase. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 23:00, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
What happened ro the 1995 elcamino that GM made?
I saw the 1995 Elcamino, on loan from GM, in June 1995 at a car show in Damascus, Maryland. What happebed to it? If you read this call me, Pat, at 410-365-8249, Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:57, 13 September 2012 (UTC)